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05-06-2011, 08:58 PM | #161 |
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Some weird place called "Australia". I hear they have to wear velcro shoes to keep from falling off the earth.
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05-06-2011, 08:59 PM | #162 |
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Okay, so, since no one has objected to it, would everyone please tell me which person you would have selected for your cure yesterday/last night if you were Sam?
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05-06-2011, 09:00 PM | #163 |
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And she called you a jerk because she loves that tunnel more than she loves you.
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It's your turn now. Lovely.
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05-06-2011, 09:03 PM | #165 |
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Probably Bom for me. He came out of the gate acting as if he'd known you for years. That, or he's been stalking you here. Uncanny, I called it.
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05-06-2011, 09:17 PM | #167 |
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Exactly.
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05-06-2011, 09:46 PM | #168 |
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I am here. Alas, my velcro shoes came off and I floated off into space for a bit, but all is well now.
Which is to say, I was seeing my brother and sister-and-law off at the airport on a late flight, and because they're both loonies who couldn't organise their way out of a paper bag, there were many, many hassles. Didn't get much sleep. I'll give my thoughts in due course.
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05-06-2011, 10:52 PM | #169 |
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I've only been lurking since . . . sometime late last year? I forget. But I latched on to phantom the first time I saw him . . . reading Tol-in-Gaurhoth I and being amazed by his deduction.
Anyway, yeah, given that phantom had impressed me so much previously, I went straight to following him around. I just hope I don't turn out to be blindly following a phantlob. Anyway, were I Sam, I would've cured Lhuna. |
05-06-2011, 11:04 PM | #170 |
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I'm here, and my brain is 'sploding with words, and only some of them have to do with Fea's awesome/hilarious nickname.
Zil: It's been a while since I've played with him, but something strikes me as off...not sure yet, but he tops my list. tp: The way he labelled Wilwa and I innocent yesterDay made me think that he could be Shetom, preparing excuses for links between him and future Spiderlings, but I think he'd choose different people if that were the case. Since he's tp, unexplained assertions really wouldn't go questioned, no matter who he chose to unexplainedly assert things about. Fea and BomTom strike me as innocent. And fun. But for the purposes of this post, primarily innocent. Everyone else is just sort of hovering in the blackness like some sort of unidentified thing that hovers. UFOs, they are... EDIT: xed with BomTom
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05-06-2011, 11:23 PM | #171 |
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phantom, dear, you never cease to amaze with your uncanny powers of interpretation.
How you jumped from "Will someone please hold my hand?" to "Lhuna is either Shelob or a Been-Stung" baffles me. Well of course there were a lot of other skippingstones along the way - which you enumerated - but I dare think that if my first post didn't give you that idea, you would have reached a different hypothesis about me. Or reached the same hypothesis, but felt less strongly about it. Or ignored me completely. |
05-07-2011, 01:36 AM | #172 | |
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IMPORTANT NOTE: This post is especially for Bom. If you are not Bom, read at your own risk. If you particularly dislike me or are feeling hostile towards me at the moment, definitely don't read this post, as it will result in uncontrollable fist-shaking, temporary gagging, and spasms of eye-rolling.
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WW 2- This one was hosted by SPM, and though our styles hadn't entirely settled, I still have to include it as it was a well earned Wolf victory for me. WW 4- This game, modded by TGWBS, was notable in that it was the first ever innocent win. I did my part to help, but the most notable thing about my involvement was my request for lynching volunteers on the first day of the game. It was hilarious and sort of set the tone for what it meant to be Phantom- amusing and predictably unpredictable. One Saga to Rule Them All!!- This Wilwa modded game was just delightful for Boro, Lal, and I, the unlynched victorious WWs. If you enjoy slaughter of Ordos, this is a game for you. Psychotic Penguins- This gem, hosted by Nog and Lommy, definitely ranks as one of my favorites. In a period of four days we villagers managed to lynch the three WWs and the Cobbler, and thanks to a lovely set-up from SeerLal I was able to pretend to be the Hunter though I was but an Ordo. It was a riot! Dueling Wizards II- This mountain of a game was masterfully hosted by Nog and took a huge huge investment of time on my part (I was a wizard). The extremely memorable thing in this game is (besides my entertaining posts obviously) the incredible accuracy of all of my nightly selections. The Opera Ghost was on fire, my friends. At the Source of Darkness- This ruins-exploring adventure, dreamed up by Mac & Rikae, required my partner Wolf (Lommy) and I to walk a fine line, and we did it! Want to learn how to be a good WW? Take notes on this one. The Republic- Fea's amazing Rep-voting style game was arguably as great a performance as I've ever had as a good-guy. Boro and I ran an amazing double-act that is just gripping to read, and we successfully put three WWs into the ground before we were Night-killed. Unfortunately the remaining WW was never caught (Brin managed quite the escape), but it doesn't undo the previous brilliance. Chess Game For Middle Earth- This extremely creative contest, Shasta's baby, was absolutely thrilling beginning to end! The end was notable in that it in fact didn't happen, but we all still remember it fondly, and I was un-friggin-believable as the Cobbler. But believe it or not, it's possible that it wasn't my best ever Cobbler performance, because.... Halls of Mandos- I was just beautiful in this recent Mac & Rikae hosted party. I mean, seriously, if I'm not mistaken I actually danced a little jig and jumped up and down at the finish- quite the reaction for someone who always expects to be awesome. That ought to tell you that I went beyond the normal bounds of greatness. Now, the following games are special due to the fact that they were moderated by yours truly. *bows* Each was quite revolutionary in its time, and the play was fantastic! Erbar Telamarth- I set out quite a fun story in this one, and even after the game was over there was fun to be had, as I had hidden various "Easter Eggs" throughout my narratives that players were encouraged to find after the contest. Also, my final day final narration that came in bits and pieces was just edge-of-seat stuff (I kept everyone guessing). With a Twist- I'd love to tell you all about this game, but it would ruin the twist. Fea helped me with writing the confusing narration which then makes sense at the finish when a huge twist is revealed! It was definitely one of the most evil plots I've ever come up with. Werewolf- this time it's real! Now this one was very unique in that the game started out like an RPG and then turned into a horrifying game of real life Werewolf! The premise- present day, and Middle Earth is real! You'll just have to read it. And then also deserving a spot on the list is the brave Legate who dared to enact an evil plot of mine that I discussed with him privately. The plot? Have a false Day 1. *snicker* Prison of Ice (PS Bom- if you read too many of these threads at once, you may experience what is known as a Phantogasm. Though it is an amazingly awesome thing, there are negative side-effects which may include temporary blind obedience, loss of reasoning skills, and depression when reading any thread Phantom hasn't posted on. If I were you, I'd take it slow.)
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But until then we can be friends. So, first question- who would you have cured yesterday/night? Second question- what is your estimate on how many episodes before Castle and Kate get together?
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05-07-2011, 01:45 AM | #174 |
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Ah, so now if Bomderling appears too knowledgeable for a noob we'll all understand why, right, phantlob?
EDIT:X'd with phantom.
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05-07-2011, 01:56 AM | #175 |
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He already is too smart for a Noob, Shewen (not accusing you, just using Fea's delightful names). I was just sort of wanting an excuse to sing my praises.
(I finished with my finals today, you see, and I did great on them and I'm feeling super super happy to be done and pleased with myself in general. Then in comes Bom and.... like gasoline on a flame.)
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05-07-2011, 01:58 AM | #176 |
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Side note- Ever since I posted that list of threads I've been waiting for Shasta to run in and say, "That does it!!" and declare me evil on grounds that I'm annoying.
He must be busy tonight.
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05-07-2011, 02:05 AM | #177 |
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Bleh. I need sleep. I'll be around the final five hours or so. *waves*
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05-07-2011, 02:18 AM | #178 |
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So I watched Batman tonight. You know, the one with the plant lady? Yeah. And the last scene, where they're running all sillouette-y with their capes fluttering? Best scene of the movie.
So what that basically boils down to is, I wish wish wish that I could call tp evil, but... Now: I've never played with Lhuna before, so I don't know if it's normal for her, but her most recent post especially reads kind of forcedly to me. Not sure what that's about, but I'll wait for people who know her playing style better to start talking about her.
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Hmm. Not me, because I know what I am. Also because you hinted at Samming me yesterDay, and as much as possible I wouldn't want you to direct my actions. So. I think I'll pass. Maybe for now, maybe not. Quote:
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I am a bit wary of the phantom declaring wilwa and Lottie innocent, I can't put it past you to hide behind that. Also there's not much to suspect concretely at this point because it's been relatively quiet (albeit slightly chatty ) in this darkness. |
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05-07-2011, 07:11 AM | #182 | |
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I feel safe to say, I think I see what you're up to now and I'm on board. I will also point you to my posts, where I'm sure you can deduce what I have been doing....obviously. I live dangerously, you know this... If I was Sam, and I wanted to use my one cure chance, it would have been Lhuna last night. I may not have spent it so early considering the odds. However, if the ones I trusted more were leaving Lhuna to cure in my hands, I would have done it.
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Okay. I'm not sure whether this "who would you have protected were you Sam" -thing is a good idea or not. If everyone says they would have protected Lhuna (well, she was the only person based on yesterDay one could have a reason to try and heal, others I think would have been more or less shots in the dark) and Sam goes along saying the same truthfully, then we know that Lhuna is innocent toDay whether stinged on N1 or not. That would be good.
But the downside is that if Sam didn't try to heal Lhuna last Night for whichever reason he had he's now in trouble. Saying he tried to heal Lhuna gives us a possibly misleading confidence that Lhuna is a "known innocent", but giving another name would make him stand out from the others in a way Sam wouldn't probably like to. Quote:
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On another thought. There was one "prime time" discussion set while I slept and what you guys managed to do was one page of banter and tp beating Zaphord Beeblebrox characterwise. Sadly I'm not able to hang around right now, but I will be back later and will try to do something better than this. (There is an ice hockey world championships match between Finland and Slovakia beginning three hours from the DL, but I'm not that enthusiast ice hockey fan I'd need to concentrate on it the whole game, but it will certainly distract me for a while... )
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05-07-2011, 08:45 AM | #185 |
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I am going to have to vote soon, anyway.
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In the first place, whose idea was it yesterDay that Lhuna might need Sam's help? And who's attempting to tap into Sam's mind toDay by trying to get everyone to think like a Sam? No, phantom, I'm not saying you're manipulative. I'm really not sure how to describe you at this point. |
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We have to consider the distinct possibility that Sam was the target (I feel like this is the likely situation), which means Shelob knows who he is and super wants him dead. (and her spawn also wants him dead) So we just need to keep an eye out for two people who seem to really want a certain person dead, with maybe weak reasons for it, and they could be guilty. Also, if we do end up accidently lynching Sam, then we could just look into who seemed to really want that person dead. I think it could end up being a positive thing if Shelob is aware of Sam's identity this early. She can't kill him at Night, being lynched is the only threat to him, so in order to get him killed Shelob and her spawn need to really push a case against Sam, and if they succeed then a lot of attention could be brought to them the next Day, so it's super risky for them.
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Anyway, I wouldn't be so sure Sam followed phantom's orders. For all you know he might have found the way he was pushing for Lhuna alarming.
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It just occurred to me - sally said "Shelob was not able to sting anyone last Night." What if it means just that, Shelob missed the DL and was indeed not able to sting? Do we get to be told details like this, Moddess, or are we left to speculate how it is that there is no new Been-Stung?
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05-07-2011, 10:47 AM | #191 |
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Okay, really got to vote, and I haven't come up with anything better, so–
++the phantom++ Simply because he's the person most clearly up to something. Of course he always is, and maybe I'm being really unfair, and it's all some brilliant scheme to save the village. About half the village seems to be part of it anyway. However it seems to me that, though the Lhuna scheme did make some sense, having everyone discuss Sam so much was rather in the villains' interests. The Glirdywaggon was a shady-looking vehicle, too. Well, that's the best I can come up with right now. Good luck. EDIT:X'd Lhunatic.
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That does it. Phantom is obviously evil on the grounds that he's being annoying.
Now that that I'd out of the way... I'm still uncomfortable with Nog from yesterday, but I'd like to put Boro and His Egotisticalness on notice - these veiled hints and other shenanigans aren't going to fly this game. Right now, when we only have one spiderling to worry about, is fine. Once there are two, though, remember that they aren't allowed to communicate except through Shelob, and they don't want to kill each other off (obviously), leaving the thread their only means of finding each other at all. Shenanigans only benefit the spiderlings, in my opinion, since there aren't really nightkills to speak of. So if you're lings, you'll use them to communicate right under our noses, and if you're not then the real lings will be using your antics as cover to communicate. Either way it's bad, right?
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05-07-2011, 11:42 AM | #195 |
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All right. Even though not everyone has spoken, enough people have spoken to strengthen my resolve on a few ideas I had, and that will have to be enough for today.
1) I believe Shelob has a spiderling now 2) I believe Shelob attacked Sam 3) Possible Shelobs are Lhuna, Nog, Shasta, Inzil 5) Possible Spiderlings are Boro, Fea, Nerwen If my hunches are correct, Phantom, Wilwa, Lottie, and Bom would be our worst choices for a lynch. Fea, Nerwen, and Inzil aren't particularly great choices either, as they have been included more on the grounds that I felt I could not rule them out. Shasta and Nog I was hoping to see more from in hopes that I could remove them from the list, but they haven't had opportunity to post much. So the jury is still out on them until such time as I get to talk with them a bit today. Lhuna is, to my mind, playing oddly (not how I remember her in times past). I don't believe her to be a Spiderling, but she could well be a Shelob knowing that if she dies her gift would transfer anyway. I'm still tempted to lynch her on Day 3. Now Boro could very well be our not-so-friendly neighborhood Spiderman (Spiderling). You'll see that yesterday I pointed out that his opening post indicated he was potentially sick (had been stung), and if Sam did indeed attempt to cure Lhuna but Boro was the bite victim, he is now a fully fledged Spiderling and has switched sides on us. Also, to address the possibility that Sam was attacked and thus Shelob knows who Sam is.... Rather than attack Sam immediately, Shelob could very well opt to spend the first day attempting to off anyone that looks likely to support Sam (try to lynch a supporter and then try and sting a supporter) and then go after Sam, but in a way that gets her hands less dirty (e.g. send orders to her Spiderling to try and get a certain individual lynched). We ought to keep an eye out for that as well.
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But I hope we're all on the same page now with Sam. He's our double-ability precious whom the enemy wants... to lynch! Like wilwa said, Sam can not be turned into a spiderling and thus Shelob needs to get her lynched. So let's not lynch him, or at least be ready to read closely who got him lynhced if that is done. *curses the "no-reveal"-rules* Anyway. Unless something quite remarkable emerges, I take the preliminary results of phantom's gallup as an indicator that whoever Sam is, he has most probably tried to heal Lhuna aka. we most probably should not lynch her. So what is our next step then? With three hours to go, maybe we should start trying to find candidates for lynching? I see why some people have been making more or less direct claims against tp but I tend to disagree at this point. Even if he is an arrogant egoist (to put it mildly! ), he seems to be doing good work in this anemic village where more or less everyone seems to hunker down. With one stinging failed by Shelob I think we should see whether his ideas prove benefical in the future as we have at least one more Day to play before Shelob gets her troops together in a mass needed to win. To think then... (and to watch some ice hockey )
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*frowns* I'm really having some trouble with Boro here. On Day 1 his first post reads-
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I won't be posting much today, since I will be out and about constantly until DL (I am posting from my IPad at present). Here is my suspicious list:
Phantom and Wilwa for Glirdy-wagon suspiciousness, plus Lottie by association. Phantom has shown some good reasoning so far however, aside from his declarations about Wilwottie, so if anybody is to be lynched for the Wagon, it should be Nog and Boro, as I've previously stated. Still, I haven't noted a third supporting them just yet, which there should be if they are the original duo. Lhuna is also interesting, as I don't recall her giving any opposition to Phantom's position about her on D1 (although I may prove myself wrong on this when I can check properly), but now she suddenly opposes the notion. I think that's it for now, but I will return to post when I can. |
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