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12-07-2008, 02:40 AM | #1882 |
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Okay, it's down to
Brinn Lommy Greenie Nerwen. And we have to get the wolf toDay (obviously.) So yes, we may as well do a double-lynch. Problem is, it seems I'm one of the lynch-candidates. That won't matter, of course, if the other one is the wolf. However, from my point of view it would give us a better chance if one of the lynchees wasn't someone I know to be innocent, i.e. me. So I've got a dilemma: should I defend myself or not? If I convince you of my innocence it will help the village... but then if we concentrate on me all Day it won't. X'd with with Brinn.
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Three quotes...really? Is that all I could find out of Greenie worth commenting? You see, that's the trouble...she always flies under my radar and I find that incredibly frustrating. It shouldn't be like that, especially when there are only four players left.
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12-07-2008, 03:26 AM | #1884 |
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Argh, if this isn't nerve-wrecking. Double lynch sounds like a very good idea as this is the last Day we have anyway. I've been thinking about the reps. It's vital that everyone votes because otherwise we'll only get one rep which in turn makes the double lynch impossible. (It's possible of course to get the wolf by a single lynch but why gamble?) Also, we should reach consensus about who we want as our reps or preferably who we want to lynch before the rep-voting so as to avoid unwanted situations (ie. the person who is most suspected being a rep etc.).
The wolf is either Brinn, Lommy or Nerwen. I'm still quite confident that Lommy is innocent. That leaves Brinn and Nerwen. Hmmm... I'd want Lommy as rep since she's the only one I'm somewhat sure is innocent.
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12-07-2008, 04:17 AM | #1886 |
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By "out" I meant "not a wolf".
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12-07-2008, 04:47 AM | #1887 |
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Supicious includes anyone who is slightly mentioned as wolfish.
Day 1 1. Greenie: Brinn Brinn's suspects at the time: none 2. Lommy: Ilya Ilya's suspects: none 3. Brinn: Aganzir Aganzir's suspects: none 4. Nerwen: no vote Wolves- 5. Ka: Boromir Boro's suspects: Legate 6. morm: Nogrod 7. Nogrod: Ilya Ilya's suspects of the time: none (well, she mentions me as suspicious but I think it was banter) Day 2 1. Lommy: Nerwen Nerwen's suspects: Nogrod, tp, Legate, Boro, Aganzir, Brinn 2. Nerwen: Lommy Lommy's suspects: Nogrod, tp, morm, Ilya, Aganzir, Ka 3. Greenie: morm morm's suspects: tp, Nerwen 4. Brinn: Kath Kath's suspects: Greenie, Eonwe Wolves- 5. morm: Aganzir Aganzir's suspects: Ilya, Eonwe, Greenie, Lommy, Noggie 6. Ka: Lommy Lommy's suspects: Nogrod, tp, morm, Ilya, Aganzir, Ka 7. Nogrod: Boromir Boro's suspects: Nogrod Day 3 1. Greenie: morm morm's suspects: tp, Boro, Nerwen 2. Lommy: Shasta Shasta's suspects: tp, Boro 3. Brinn: Shasta Shasta's suspects: tp, Boro 4. Nerwen: Kath Kath's suspects: Boro, Greenie Wolves- 5. morm: Lommy Lommy's suspects: Boro, tp 6. Nogrod: Kath Kath's suspects: Boro, Greenie 7. Ka: Greenie Greenie's suspects: Ilya, Boro ---------------- That took a long time and I feel it was a waste. On Day 1, not many suspected anyone during rep votes. On Day 2, there were too many suspects and few were very heavy ones. Plus, the wolves voted players as reps who both suspected them and their fellow known wolves. So unfortunately, I can't really say this tells us anything..
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12-07-2008, 05:36 AM | #1889 |
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As I said, I don't really want to go into a long, distracting defence of myself. However, I'll briefly explain the business with me, Boro and tp:
I suspected early in the piece that they were the Seer and a dreamed innocent who had guessed the Seer's identity and was taking cues from him. (I guessed wrong about which was which.) Much of what I did in the next few days (when I wasn't coping with Wolfegil) was aimed at keeping the wolves off them. The Aganzir "chess-game" was part of that. The comment you (Brinn) mention: "Boro and phantom... yes, I guessed what you were up to, though I was a bit slow on the uptake." was to let the Seer know I understood what was going on. EDIT: X'd with Brinniel (twice).
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12-07-2008, 05:39 AM | #1890 |
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Ugh, all this research from me is getting rather ridiculous. It's past 6am here and I still haven't gone to bed. Quite unhealthy considering I have a lot of school work due this week.
In summary, my opinions haven't really changed. Nerwen seems the most suspicious, Greenie is a question mark, and Lommy looks innocent. I agree our safest bet is to try a double lynch and we need to discuss ahead of time who we want to vote as our reps. And since we want two reps, we should list our top two choices since there's a chance three of us may prefer voting for one person...but obviously we can't do that if we want two reps. My first choice is obviously Lommy. She's the one I want to vote for because I trust her most as all my research points to her innocence. And my second choice would be Greenie. Btw, since I missed deadline last time, I'd like to vote early toDay. I'm heading out in the early afternoon to do some editing for school and I have no idea when I'll be back and I'd rather not push my vote to the final hours again. So preferably I'd like to vote in five hours or so. I'm so tired right now and I apologise if I don't make any sense. Off to sleep... EDIT: X-ed with Nerwen
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12-07-2008, 11:21 AM | #1891 |
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Nobody's posted in the last six hours? Really? I thought at least someone would post while I was asleep...
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12-07-2008, 12:00 PM | #1892 |
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Just dropping in before letting Lommie post. My first choice for rep would be Lommy as well, but I'm starting to get slightly worried about her after all, if only because I trust her so much and because she's still alive though no one suspects her... Gah, this game is making me paranoid. At this point it looks like everyone trusts Lommy, but we need a second rep as well. I'd suggest myself since I at least am innocent, though I'm not blaming you if you don't trust me since you really can't. The two that aren't reps will most probably be the ones we lynch, so we are almost certainly deciding now who we're lynching. Aieee!
Also, as I forgot it last time I posted, I think a ++ No filibuster would be in order. I'll come back after a while to vote for my rep. Before that, I'd love to hear from everyone who they want as rep and who they think we should lynch. Starting with myself: I think Lommy should be rep and that leaves Brinn and Nerwen for lynch.
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I had a bad feeling all day that it's Greenie after all. Now I'm going to do some reread (first this Day and then maybe a bit more) and see... Just a quick comment though: Quote:
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I think Nerwen's explanation of her tactics sounds reasonable... but a wolf could have employed them too... if it was just a faint suspicion and her fellows didn't agree or they had some master plan... I dunno. I need to think more about it. Tell me, if Brinn really was a wolf, would she put all that effort to analysis? I find it a bit hard to believe, but on the other hand... I think she's done something a bit similar before...
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Aieee I've been avoiding thinking about this stuff by reading other threads and I'm still way too unsure. And no one's even saying anything. *goes to reread everybody's posts in a brinnielly fashion*
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Alright, I wanted to wait until I heard more, but I'm already leaving to work on my project over an hour later than planned. I can't wait any longer.
My vote shouldn't be any surprise though: ++Lommy for rep I will be back later tonight, but as I have a lot of things to do, I'm not sure what time. Could be as early as 7pm EST or late as 10pm EST.
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Okay, that's it. Gosh this takes time... Conclusion: Brinn's more innocent than not. But I will refrain from further comments before I've checked Nerwen and Greenie too. edit: xed with my analysis-target
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Okay, just a quick comment.
I'm wondering why I'm alive. Because I think I should be dead. Kath was not suspected either, but I think I was more generally considered innocent. Is it more than random that I'm not dead? Did the wolf assume I'd go after Nerwen and thus thought it safe to keep me around? Or did Nerwen try a very very bold bluff this way? I'm a bit baffled, but this does make me feel better about Nerwie. She would have had a perfect excuse to eliminate someone who suspected her quite a lot - why wouldn't she have used it?
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Anyone else around? I feel a bit lonely...
Btw, I wonder if we're going to make it past 2000 posts... that would be quite something. Ok, but now I'm off to reread and analyse Greenie.
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And that's her. Conclusion: fishy like Gollum's favourite food. More suspicious than Brinn. Need to check Nerwen before saying anything more, though.
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Her looking at Nog's and Boro's posts and Nog's comments of it is all in all rather fishy.
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Finis. I didn't find much to comment about her, which worries me... She says some suspicious stuff but overall, she's not too bad. I think she's possibly more innocent than Greenie but less innocent than Brinn from my pov... or maybe about as innocent - but now I'm going to vote Brinn for rep obviously because Nerwen won't be able vote herself. (On the other hand, I'd like to have the last vote and it's more likely that Greenie has to leave before me than that Brinn does... hmm...)
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Nerwen, if you're around, please give your opinion on who should be the reamining rep, and soon.... *yawn*
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12-07-2008, 07:09 PM | #1905 |
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++Brinn
I don't feel like timezone plotting right now and she feels the most innocent of you three. If I happen to change my mind on her, or we all decide she's suspicious, I may always vote her. If she's an innocent, she will vote someone else and we'll gamble, if she's a wolf she'll vote someone innocent off but who cares, we win.
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12-07-2008, 10:05 PM | #1906 |
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Hi, anyone around?
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12-07-2008, 10:06 PM | #1907 |
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Lommy's vote will decide the outcome of the game.
The pressure, I'm sure, is negligible.
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12-07-2008, 10:07 PM | #1908 |
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I guess I'd better vote
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12-07-2008, 10:09 PM | #1909 |
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Sorry, timezone mixup.
So it's just Lommy.
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12-07-2008, 10:16 PM | #1911 |
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Which means I've screwed up the double-lynch.
Now it's my fault if we lose.
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12-07-2008, 10:19 PM | #1912 |
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Well, I just hope the wolf's not Lommy. I mean, I haven't seen any reason to suspect her, apart from the obvious one that she's still alive.
Oh, well, we'll know soon enough.
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12-07-2008, 10:22 PM | #1913 |
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Lommy, if it is you, you've done a brilliant job and I deserve to be lynched.
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Hmm...Nerwen made the same mistake I did yesterDay and missed the deadline. Though I fear this mistake could be more costly. With two reps, we would've had as high as a 50% chance of lynching the wolf, but with one there's only a 25% chance. And if Lommy's the wolf, our chances are 0%. (Though if that's the case, had there been two reps we still would've been doomed as I already know I wouldn't have voted for Lommy.) Anyways, don't expect anymore heavy duty research from me since there's no way I'm staying up until 6am again. Though I think I will take a closer look at what's been said toDay, as I haven't really done that yet.
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About Nerwen's late vote: On one hand, it could've be an honest mistake. On the other hand, it could've been very convenient for a wolf to miss the deadline only by minutes therefore preventing a double lynch and making it less likely for her to get lynched. I'm not sure what to make of this. The thing that bothers me about toDay is that only Lommy and me have actually put any effort in so far. I haven't heard anything from Greenie and Nerwen about who they suspect the most. Considering it is our last Day, it'd be nice to hear some opinions from these two rather than lay low. I really would like to hear both of your thoughts.
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Hi, Brinn.
I'm terribly sorry about screwing up like that. I hope it doesn't cost us the game. Okay, about the possible wolf: whoever it is has been very clever and not left much of a trail, so it's hard to make a real case. If it's Lommy, we're already dead, obviously, so there's no point discussing her. So, I have to assume it's either Brinn or Greenie. Of the two... Brinniel has been very helpful with quotes and analyses, but as I recall that's a thing she does when she's a wolf, too... doesn't really point either way. Against her there's her pushing for the fixed number of reps scheme, which struck me as weird and distracting at the time. Greenie... has slipped under the radar until recently. I don't think I can add to the cases Brinn and Lommy have made on her. Half Lommy's case is just "disturbing use of smilies" And yes, her interaction with known wolves could mean something. At #504 (already quoted in part by Brinn and Lommy) she talks about Nogrod and also about morm: Quote:
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Nerwen you are exactly not helping.
And neither is the ever silent (and ever hiding?) Greenie. If you all could tell me who you suspect the most and why, it'd help. Grr... I was thinking we'd win this with a double lynch but now I'm pretty sure we lose... because it is in my hands in the end and I always screw things up. But like I've said before, it doesn't really matter so much if we lose. I think the wolf deserves it if she wins. Please, everybody, tell me your opinion of why it was Kath who died last Night (and not me, for example). Anyway, I'm going to be here now for a couple of hours and then I'm coming back rather late my time, around 8 or 9 pm GMT. And when I come back, I really want to see some serious posting and discussing by everybody *glares at Nerwen and Greenie*. Otherwise I cannot decide which one of you is a wolf. I'm still least suspicious of Brinn. Of Greenie and Nerwen I don't know... I used to suspect Greenie more but Nerwen's late posts haven't been quite convincing. And I know I could very well reverse my opinion on Brinn too... Hey wolf, you're a bit too good at this. PS. I don't want to be tempted to vote Greenie because I'd hate losing to her the most...
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So we won't have the double-lynch after all? Don't lose hope, we can still win - though certainly not if Lommy keeps suspecting me. Please ask me questions and I try to answer as well as I can. Obviously I can't defend myself from arguments like "disturbing use of smiley".
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I'm back - didn't buy the books after all since I was all too tired. Well anyway, about who I suspect then. I don't suspect Lommy, which leaves Nerwen and Brinn as possible wolves. I can't choose between them.
Brinn's activity and annoyance at others being quiet/unproductive speaks for her innocence, but mostly from yesterDay and the Day before I got a bad feeling about her, I'll go and try to find exact quotes since that's no use as an argument. Good points have been raised about Nerwen, especially her reactions to things that have happened looking fabricated etc, but I still think her continuous row with morm speaks for her innocence rather than against it. Hmmm... I need to think still. As for how much I'm able to be here toDay, well, I have a few school things to do and such and I suppose darling Lommy wants to post once she gets back home from work, but otherwise I'll be more or less around all evening. Is there anyone here except for me?
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12-08-2008, 09:41 AM | #1920 |
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Actually this is funny. The more I read Brinn's posts, the more she starts to look innocent to me. But if she's innocent like she now looks, that logically means that Nerwen is the wolf. Could she be? Argh. I don't know. But since both Lommy and Brinn look more innocent than she does, I guess it's her. My reread of yesterDay and the Day before it (mainly concentrating on Brinn, but skimming Nerwen as well) made Brinn look better and Nerwen slightly worse.
EDIT: Still no one here? I love triple posting and all, but still it would be nice to have someone to talk to...
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