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|  03-05-2009, 09:23 AM | #41 | 
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			I remember reading in the Book of Lost Tales that although the Númenóreans were in early times a peaceful people, their weapons, armour, and horsemanship were unsurpassed by any, save the Valar. I interpret the passage as saying that no Eldar could surpass Ar-Pharazon's invading force by martial prowess alone and snce the Valar could not/would not take up arms agains Eru's children, they had no choice but to defer to him. | 
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|  03-05-2009, 10:47 AM | #42 | 
| Itinerant Songster Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: The Edge of Faerie 
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			Well said.  And welcome!    | 
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|  03-05-2009, 12:16 PM | #43 | |
| shadow of a doubt Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Back on the streets 
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 I hardly think Morgoth could command the earth to rend either, but when the army out of Aman broke Morgoth's persona and wrestled Middle Earth out of his grasp, the earth was somehow broken too. I imagine the fall of the Dark Lord was followed by cataclysmal geological events such as terrifying earthquakes with fiery chasms opening up, huge tsunami waves rolling onto the shores, volcanic eruptions, all kinds of mayhem. This probably relates to what we are told in HoME X where it's described how Morgoth became incarnate to identify himself with the 'hroa' of Middle Earth, in order to wholly make himself master of it. It was because of this his vast powers became dispersed which I suppose is a metaphor for the seemingly ever-present evil in the world. The book's title "Morgoth's Ring" refers to how all of Middle Earth became what the One Ring was to Sauron, that is, a sort of materialisation of his powers. I believe that the destruction of Beleriand happened because of this close relationship between Morgoth and the very earth. Somehow. 
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|  03-08-2009, 01:31 PM | #44 | |
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				__________________ The entire plot of The Lord of the Rings could be said to turn on what Sauron didn’t know, and when he didn’t know it. | |
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