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Old 02-18-2001, 12:58 PM   #41
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Re: Dying Thread

Fangorn?

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Old 02-18-2001, 12:59 PM   #42
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Yes, Galdriel calls him so. Ask us!

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the one I'm looing for is called old, though he's only second oldest of his race

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The Old Took?

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correct. proceed

btw - what a quick exchange of hits, heh

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10 replies within an hour <img src=biggrin.gif ALT="">

Who is most evil (based on Letters)?

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Based on letters eh? Too bad I haven“t read it. Anyway I guess Melkor or Morgoth seems too obvious, seeing your way of asking and the explicite reference to Letters. So I“ll go for Sauron.. just a wild guess, but questions may provide a clue to their own answer as I“ve explained above. I might be totally wrong though... <img src=smile.gif ALT="">

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Ungoliant

Melcor sarted with a purpose to achieve - he, after all wanted to create something. Her evilness is purposeless. So I vote for her

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gildor's right.
JRRT said there is no absolute evil in ME, but Sauron would come closest to it.
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Hmm...

I“m really amazed I got that one right.
And I think H-I“s answer is far more reasonable; Sauron and even Morgoth started out good and turned to evil later. Ungoliant on the other hand 'devoured light' and made Morgoth call upon his buddies the Balrogs. So one might say, very cautiously (I wouldn“t want to offend anybody), that JRRT was mistaken on his own work here.
Any thoughts on this one?

As for the thread... I“ll have to think, so be patient please.. <img src=smile.gif ALT="">

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Re: Hmm...

ok ok here it finally is:
There were three hosts of Elves travelling to the West in the deeps of time some time after they awoke at the lake of Cuvienen (spelling?).

What were the people of the FIRST host called, and by whom was it lead?
Same for second
Same for LAST

You may skip the second since it isn“t a superlative but I just felt it should be put in as well for completeness <img src=wink.gif ALT="">

PS: Bonus question: By whom were all three hosts lead?









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FIRST - Vanyar, led by Ingwė
LAST -- Teleri, led by Olwė and Elwė

The SECOND were the Noldor, led by Finwė.

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Old 02-20-2001, 09:19 AM   #53
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Correcto!

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Re: Hmm...

Hmm...why can't anyone spell Cuivenen? <img src=rolleyes.gif ALT=":rolleyes">

Ungoliant fits the picture quite well, although any of the dragons does too. Glaurung was [created?] as a servant of Morgoth. An evil servant; Glaurung (and for that matter any of the other dragons) did not know kindness. Glaurung and Smaug unmercifully killed, as did Ancalagon (in the rather short passage describing him <img src=tongue.gif ALT=":b"> ) and Scatha for an example.

Although, the Ring. The Ring was created as a sort of Sauron-container, an object symbolising the essence of evil and power that Sauron had concentrated into it; which, IMO, makes it a purely evil object; never starting out as good or with a decent purpose (as did Morgoth and Sauron along with the Balrogs etc.) From my perspective, however, it was an animate object...which would make it far more evil than Morgoth and Sauron. But - from this there arises the fact that it could only enhance power and not be a power of its own, and without a powerful wielder it was nothing; although to some extent this is not true. And to some extent it is, and I am rambling on for no reason. :sigh: <img src=ohwell.gif ALT=":/">

To save a debate, I shall pursue this point no further. Case closed <img src=biggrin.gif ALT="">

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Not yet... I don“t wish to change this thread in some kind of books topic, but I have to make a few remarks here.
Everything and everyone you name all had there origins either in Morgoth or in Sauron and since they were initially good, you cannot consider these things truly evil, because at its deepest roots lies not evil but good.
And therefore I think JRRT has put in Ungoliant; as a real counterpart of all goodness. She“s not caring about anything besides herself. She has no interest at all in the domination of others as is so strongly connected to the evil of Morgoth and Sauron, she only desires to devour all light, or the destruction of everything. Destruction is not connected to evil in such a way as domination, considering Eru“s destruction of Numenor and the explicit naming of the 'Free Peoples'.
The general evil in Middle-Earth is that of domination, that of Morgoth. I think Ungoliant is beyond that evil, and therefore she is not evil in that way; since she doesn“t care about anything, good or evil, only in 'devouring'.
In a way this is similar to Tom Bombadil, who is considered 'good', but he really doesn“t care about anything outside his 'own little realm'. I guess good means one“s willing to fight evil, and evil to fight good. And since Ungoliant fights good and evil, and Bombadil fights none, in my opinion you cannot count them evil or good. Or you might say their are different kinds of good and evil, or that they are truly evil and truly good and the rest is just somewhere in the middle.
As you observe I can also do a bit of rambling for no reason... <img src=wink.gif ALT="">

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I guess it's my turn to ask/

Who was the mightiest of all the elven singers of the First Age ?

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I am going to say Daeron, but Maglor came close.

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Daeron is correct, unless I'm reading too much into the passage (description of Maglor wandering the shores after taking the two Silmarils).

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Ok, how many elves were there at Cuinuvien(sp?) when thye first awoke?

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just realized this isn't a Superlatives type question really, but I still want to ask it. We can get back on topic after this one I guess.

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You are correct, burra.

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What is the name of the tallest of the towers on upon Emyn Beraid?

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Elostirion?

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Who was the first king of the Rohan?

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Eorl?

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Your turn. It says that Eorl was the first king of Rohan.

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Continuing the theme of superlatives:

Who was the tallest elf in Middle Earth in the First Age?

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Elwe Thingol. Didn't we already have this once or twice before <img src=wink.gif ALT=""> ?

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Correct. No idea whether it's been asked before, as I haven't read every thread on the site. <img src=wink.gif ALT="">

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Sorry for the delay.

Who would have been 'Not the first' (but thought to be)?
Not a perfevt superlative question, I know...

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Feanor was &quot;not the first&quot; to be killed. That honour goes to his father, Finwe.

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Perfect answer burra.

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Who were the leaders of the greatest host of the Eldar relocating to Aman?

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Elwė and Olwė ?

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Who was the &quot;fairest and most beloved&quot; of all of the house of Finwė?

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Finrod Felagund, most beloved of the Noldor?

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