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Thinlómien · 03-31-2008, 02:35 AM

Nerwen -

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I was thinking about this earlier, but as I had nothing concrete to back up my guess and very little knowledge on it overall and because I did not think it's the correct answer I did not say it. But now that both Nerwen and Might have been wrong I fail to see any of other options (except for something about as silly as what Nerwen just suggested

), so possibly, would the fastest route have been by the sea from some Gondorian port to Grey Havens?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-31-2008, 05:39 AM

Mwahahahaha, both wrong! And even if the Gondorian Airlines existed, we are told that what the fastest route was, and Gondorian Airlines are not mentioned!

*claps hands*

So what now, eh? You all must really be puzzled

(and I can give you a hint: it was not an underground network, either)

Rune Son of Bjarne · 03-31-2008, 06:16 AM

Actually that is a rather poor hint. . .it excludes a few places and clearly our problem is to come up with possible solutions. The next hint really should be one that hints to what the answer might be, instead of what it is not.

(just a bit irritated because all that I thought of when reading the question all got eliminated as solutions as I read the thread.)

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-31-2008, 06:20 AM

It was not actually supposed to be a hint

I am not giving you any hint until you are all really desperate (to which you may be close to, but not enough yet :d ), because seriously, there indeed are not many options - obviously a route via Dagorlad to Erebor and through the land of Forodwaith coming to Arnor from Angmar would be no doubt interesting for an army trying to surprise an enemy, but not as favourable for common use, trade etc.

The Might · 03-31-2008, 07:48 AM

What about Moria?
If, then it must be mentioned somewhere in FotR, I am now however not in the mood to look it up.
Actually strange I did not think of it before... also looking on the map Moria seems to save time.

Gordis · 03-31-2008, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

What was the best and fastest way from the Southern to the Northern Kingdom (while Arnor still existed)?

By sea from Pelargir to the mouth of Gwathlo, then up the river to Tharbad and then by land (following the road later called the Greenway) via Bree to Fornost?

Legate of Amon Lanc · 03-31-2008, 09:27 AM

Very good, Gordis! You are correct.

It was indeed this route. For reference, look into the Unfinished Tales, I can't look it up now, but in the passage about the port of Lond Daer, this route is said to be the most used and the fastest way possible from Gondor to Arnor; even from Minas Tirith, seemingly. It looks very interesting, and this is why I picked it, but it is said to be like that.

Gordis, please give us a new question.

Gordis · 03-31-2008, 12:33 PM

Thank you, Legate.

OK. New question:

What answer did Déor, the King of Rohan, get from Isengard when he sent messengers to its gates - and who gave this answer?

Nerwen · 03-31-2008, 07:38 PM

His messengers were shot at by the Dunlendings and treacherous guards who had seized Isengard.

Gordis · 04-01-2008, 07:39 AM

Absolutely correct, Nerwen!

Your turn.

Gollum the Great · 05-07-2008, 05:26 PM

Seems as if thisss thread, my precious, has been left in a crypt.

Nerwen · 05-19-2008, 08:52 AM

Yes, it has. I forgot all about it. You may take it, if you like, Gollum the Great.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-20-2008, 11:48 PM

What is the name of the Elf-haven in Gondor?

Nerwen · 06-21-2008, 12:28 AM

Edhellond.

Nilpaurion Felagund · 06-21-2008, 01:13 AM

The thread is yours.

Nerwen · 06-21-2008, 08:23 AM

Who was the first of the Ship-Kings?

Eönwë · 06-21-2008, 10:54 AM

Aldarion?

Nerwen · 06-21-2008, 07:31 PM

Sorry, too early. *points to thread title*

Rune Son of Bjarne · 06-21-2008, 08:12 PM

I belive it was Tarannon

Nerwen · 06-21-2008, 08:29 PM

It was indeed.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 06-22-2008, 06:24 AM

Give me the name and title of the person who took command of Minas Tirith after the death of Denethor II

Nerwen · 06-22-2008, 08:27 AM

Imrahil, Prince of Dol Amroth.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 06-22-2008, 11:27 AM

That is actually correct. . .but I made a mistake

what I should have wrote was:

"give me the name and title of the person that took command of Minas Tirith after the army departed for the black gate"

So if you want the thread you can have it, but you can also chose be kind to me and answer this question as well.

Thinlómien · 11-27-2008, 08:36 AM

Since Nerwen seems to have been rather inactive here lately, do I get the thread if I answer your latter question?

The correct answer would be Húrin, Warden of the Keys.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-27-2008, 09:10 AM

take it away Lommy

Thinlómien · 11-27-2008, 01:40 PM

Which king of Rohan was killed by a wild boar?

Gollum the Great · 11-27-2008, 02:11 PM

I remember that story and like it a lot. But I can't remember the name. Leof or something.

Thinlómien · 11-27-2008, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

I remember that story and like it a lot. But I can't remember the name. Leof or something.

Nope, not that.

PS. The king you're probably talking about is Léofa, and his manner of death is not mentioned anywhere as far as I know.

Gollum the Great · 11-27-2008, 02:20 PM

Sorry if I seem ignorant (I just can't remember), but are we allowed to look these things up in books for the purpose of answering?

Thinlómien · 11-27-2008, 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gollum the Great

Sorry if I seem ignorant (I just can't remember), but are we allowed to look these things up in books for the purpose of answering?

Actually, I do not know if there is any rule about that (the rules of Quiz Room do not state anything about it, I checked), nor do I actually know whether my fellow members do that. However, I consider it a little unethical and never do it - except that if I need to remember the English name of something I only remember it in Finnish, or sometimes if I'm a bit unsure of my guess and I can check it without spoiling myself with the real answer. (Like, if the question was "Who ate a nice cake?" and I would think that Frodo did so in Rivendell, I might check the Rivendell scene if it's there, but if the question is for example "Which important thing happened in T.A. 2056?" and I think maybe some Orcs attacked Gondor, I do not check it because if I looked at the Tale of Years, I'd see the correct answer automatically.) But I guess you must develop a policy that fits with what you yourself think is right - as long as there's no official ruling about it, everything is accepted.

Rune Son of Bjarne · 11-27-2008, 03:00 PM

"unethical"

Quite dramatic to call it unethical. . .

It is up to you what you dio, but remember it should be fun for everybody.
I do think it is alright to look in the books, but it depends on the situation and I don't have a general rule about it. Well, I do have one rule and that is that I never use the encyclopedia of Arda to anything else than to come up with a question.

Thinlómien · 11-27-2008, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rune Son of Bjarne

Well, I do have one rule and that is that I never use the encyclopedia of Arda to anything else than to come up with a question.

Ha, actually, I often leaf through the books when I'm making uations but seldom when Im answering them... interesting.

And btw I agree that "unethical" sounds dramatic, so that why I added the "a little" before it...

Legate of Amon Lanc · 11-28-2008, 07:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Ha, actually, I often leaf through the books when I'm making uations but seldom when Im answering them... interesting.

Are you sure you did not mean wuestions?

Okay, but as the history of Rohirrim is not exactly my specialisation... but now... hm... wait... I think I am starting to remember whom it concerned...

Okay, in that case, let me think

*walks away, muttering 'just what the heck that guy's name was?'*

Groin Redbeard · 11-28-2008, 11:07 AM

Oh, I know this one,

is it Folca? I know that he refused to kill a living beast until he slew all the orcs in Rohan, once that was completed he went on a boar hunt and died of wounds that the boar dealt to him. Is this what you were thinking of, Lommy?

Thinlómien · 11-28-2008, 02:55 PM

Groin - you're correct (and nice

) please take the thread.
Legate - you're nasssty.

But I admit that was a rather original typo...

Groin Redbeard · 11-30-2008, 01:25 PM

Thanks Lommy. Let's see if I can come up with a hard one.

What was the home of Eomer at the time of the War of the Ring?

Gollum the Great · 11-30-2008, 03:06 PM

I was about to say: "he didn't have one", thinking that he'd been banished, but I remembered that was only in the movie. However considering he went to so many places during the War I'll go with: the prison. I think Theoden had him dumped in there for a while.

The Might · 11-30-2008, 03:34 PM

I'd say Aldburg in the Folde, that was the ancestral home of his family.

Groin Redbeard · 12-01-2008, 11:15 AM

I guess it wasn't that hard after all.

All yours Might.

The Might · 12-01-2008, 02:49 PM

Ok, I'll try a harder one myself - where was the only fortress of the Eotheod to be found?

03-31-2008, 02:35 AM	#641
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Nerwen - . I was thinking about this earlier, but as I had nothing concrete to back up my guess and very little knowledge on it overall and because I did not think it's the correct answer I did not say it. But now that both Nerwen and Might have been wrong I fail to see any of other options (except for something about as silly as what Nerwen just suggested ), so possibly, would the fastest route have been by the sea from some Gondorian port to Grey Havens? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

03-31-2008, 05:39 AM	#642
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Mwahahahaha, both wrong! And even if the Gondorian Airlines existed, we are told that what the fastest route was, and Gondorian Airlines are not mentioned! claps hands So what now, eh? You all must really be puzzled (and I can give you a hint: it was not an underground network, either) __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-31-2008, 06:20 AM	#644
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	It was not actually supposed to be a hint I am not giving you any hint until you are all really desperate (to which you may be close to, but not enough yet :d ), because seriously, there indeed are not many options - obviously a route via Dagorlad to Erebor and through the land of Forodwaith coming to Arnor from Angmar would be no doubt interesting for an army trying to surprise an enemy, but not as favourable for common use, trade etc. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-31-2008, 07:48 AM	#645
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	What about Moria? If, then it must be mentioned somewhere in FotR, I am now however not in the mood to look it up. Actually strange I did not think of it before... also looking on the map Moria seems to save time. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

03-31-2008, 09:27 AM	#647
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	Very good, Gordis! You are correct. It was indeed this route. For reference, look into the Unfinished Tales, I can't look it up now, but in the passage about the port of Lond Daer, this route is said to be the most used and the fastest way possible from Gondor to Arnor; even from Minas Tirith, seemingly. It looks very interesting, and this is why I picked it, but it is said to be like that. Gordis, please give us a new question. __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

03-31-2008, 12:33 PM	#648
Gordis Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 431	Thank you, Legate. OK. New question: What answer did Déor, the King of Rohan, get from Isengard when he sent messengers to its gates - and who gave this answer?

03-31-2008, 07:38 PM	#649
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	His messengers were shot at by the Dunlendings and treacherous guards who had seized Isengard. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

04-01-2008, 07:39 AM	#650
Gordis Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Minas Morgul Posts: 431	Absolutely correct, Nerwen! Your turn.

05-07-2008, 05:26 PM	#651
Gollum the Great Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Pinnacle of my own might Posts: 386	Seems as if thisss thread, my precious, has been left in a crypt. __________________ 'It just shows you how true it is that one-half the world doesn't knows how the other three-quarters lives.' Bertie, The Code of the Woosters, by P. G. Wodewouse

05-19-2008, 08:52 AM	#652
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Yes, it has. I forgot all about it. You may take it, if you like, Gollum the Great. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-20-2008, 11:48 PM	#653
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	*boinkitiness* What is the name of the Elf-haven in Gondor? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-21-2008, 12:28 AM	#654
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Edhellond. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-21-2008, 01:13 AM	#655
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	Correct! The thread is yours. __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

06-21-2008, 08:23 AM	#656
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Who was the first of the Ship-Kings? __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-21-2008, 10:54 AM	#657
Eönwë Flame Imperishable Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Right here Posts: 3,928	Aldarion? __________________ Welcome to the Barrow Do-owns Forum / Such a lovely place

06-21-2008, 07:31 PM	#658
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Sorry, too early. points to thread title __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-21-2008, 08:29 PM	#660
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	It was indeed. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

06-22-2008, 08:27 AM	#662
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	Imrahil, Prince of Dol Amroth. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo.

11-27-2008, 08:36 AM	#664
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Since Nerwen seems to have been rather inactive here lately, do I get the thread if I answer your latter question? The correct answer would be Húrin, Warden of the Keys. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

11-27-2008, 01:40 PM	#666
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Which king of Rohan was killed by a wild boar? __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

11-27-2008, 02:11 PM	#667
Gollum the Great Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Pinnacle of my own might Posts: 386	I remember that story and like it a lot. But I can't remember the name. Leof or something. __________________ 'It just shows you how true it is that one-half the world doesn't knows how the other three-quarters lives.' Bertie, The Code of the Woosters, by P. G. Wodewouse

11-27-2008, 02:20 PM	#669
Gollum the Great Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Pinnacle of my own might Posts: 386	Sorry if I seem ignorant (I just can't remember), but are we allowed to look these things up in books for the purpose of answering? __________________ 'It just shows you how true it is that one-half the world doesn't knows how the other three-quarters lives.' Bertie, The Code of the Woosters, by P. G. Wodewouse

11-28-2008, 11:07 AM	#674
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	Oh, I know this one, is it Folca? I know that he refused to kill a living beast until he slew all the orcs in Rohan, once that was completed he went on a boar hunt and died of wounds that the boar dealt to him. Is this what you were thinking of, Lommy? __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

11-28-2008, 02:55 PM	#675
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	Groin - you're correct (and nice ) please take the thread. Legate - you're nasssty. But I admit that was a rather original typo... __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

11-30-2008, 01:25 PM	#676
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	Thanks Lommy. Let's see if I can come up with a hard one. What was the home of Eomer at the time of the War of the Ring? __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

11-30-2008, 03:06 PM	#677
Gollum the Great Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: The Pinnacle of my own might Posts: 386	I was about to say: "he didn't have one", thinking that he'd been banished, but I remembered that was only in the movie. However considering he went to so many places during the War I'll go with: the prison. I think Theoden had him dumped in there for a while. __________________ 'It just shows you how true it is that one-half the world doesn't knows how the other three-quarters lives.' Bertie, The Code of the Woosters, by P. G. Wodewouse

11-30-2008, 03:34 PM	#678
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	I'd say Aldburg in the Folde, that was the ancestral home of his family. __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown

12-01-2008, 11:15 AM	#679
Groin Redbeard Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Facing the world's troubles with Christ's hope! Posts: 1,635	I guess it wasn't that hard after all. All yours Might. __________________ I heard the bells on Christmas Day. Their old, familiar carols play. And wild and sweet the words repeatof peace on earth, good-will to men! ~Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

12-01-2008, 02:49 PM	#680
The Might Guard of the Citadel Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Oxon Posts: 2,205	Ok, I'll try a harder one myself - where was the only fortress of the Eotheod to be found? __________________ “The invisible and the non-existent look very much alike.” Delos B. McKown