20 Questions on ME - Page 160 - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Galadriel55 · 06-01-2011, 04:17 PM

South of (the lattitude of) Orthanc?

Tuor in Gondolin · 06-01-2011, 04:19 PM

North of Rohan?

Mithalwen · 06-02-2011, 03:01 AM

Yes to South of Orthanc (latitude
No to North of Rohan

Galadriel55 · 06-02-2011, 06:47 AM

What about this one?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitch

West of the Misty Mountains?

And my own question: Is it west of Anduin?

Mithalwen · 06-02-2011, 07:37 AM

Sorry Pitch. I missed that on the page break.

It is not west of the Misty Mountains . Wish I hadn't done a place now I have no sense of direction whatsoever.

It isn't west of Anduin either.

Galadriel55 · 06-02-2011, 07:38 AM

Is it in Ithilien?

Mithalwen · 06-02-2011, 07:47 AM

It is in Ithilien... which means I got all that tricksy east west stuff right...

Galadriel55 · 06-02-2011, 07:52 AM

Is it Henneth Annun?

Mithalwen · 06-02-2011, 10:39 AM

It is. Love the window on the west...

Galadriel55 · 06-02-2011, 02:23 PM

Too easy? I don't think so. It's just that Henneth Annun is what I first think of when I hear "Ithilien".

I have a (hopefully) tricksy one in mind...

Mithalwen · 06-02-2011, 03:34 PM

Thing?

Galadriel55 · 06-02-2011, 03:49 PM

Thing - no

Mithalwen · 06-02-2011, 03:54 PM

person?

Galadriel55 · 06-02-2011, 05:09 PM

Thing - no
Person - no

Kyranger · 06-02-2011, 06:40 PM

Place?

Galadriel55 · 06-02-2011, 08:44 PM

Thing - no
Person - no
Place - yes

Mithalwen · 06-03-2011, 02:38 AM

In Middle Earth?

Galadriel55 · 06-03-2011, 07:09 AM

Thing - no
Person - no
Place - yes
In ME? - yes

Tuor in Gondolin · 06-03-2011, 07:35 AM

West of the Anduin?

Galadriel55 · 06-03-2011, 07:51 AM

Thing - no
Person - no
Place - yes
In ME? - yes
West of Anduin - I'm tempted to say yes, but that would confuse everyone... so yesno.

Mithalwen · 06-03-2011, 08:40 AM

Ooh Couple of options spring to mind.. Tol Brandir?

Tuor in Gondolin · 06-03-2011, 12:48 PM

The Carrock?

Galadriel55 · 06-03-2011, 01:28 PM

Thing - no
Person - no
Place - yes
In ME? - yes
West of Anduin - yesno
Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither

*evil laugh*

I will give clues if you need them, because I came up with something... unordinary.

Pitchwife · 06-03-2011, 01:34 PM

Anduin itself?

Galadriel55 · 06-03-2011, 01:38 PM

Thing - no
Person - no
Place - yes
In ME? - yes
West of Anduin - yesno
Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither
Anduin itself - good guess, but no.

Mithalwen · 06-03-2011, 02:06 PM

Is it a place that wouldcould be shown named
on a map?

Galadriel55 · 06-03-2011, 02:13 PM

Thing - no
Person - no
Place - yes
In ME? - yes
West of Anduin - yesno
Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither
Anduin itself - no
Labeled on a map - definitely!

Kyranger · 06-04-2011, 07:16 AM

Emyn Muil?

Galadriel55 · 06-04-2011, 07:54 AM

Thing - no
Person - no
Place - yes
In ME? - yes
West of Anduin - yesno
Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither
Anduin itself - no
Labeled on a map - definitely!

Emyn Muil - another good guess, but no again.

Mithalwen · 06-04-2011, 08:36 AM

Falls of Rauros?

Galadriel55 · 06-04-2011, 08:41 AM

Thing - no
Person - no
Place - yes
In ME? - yes
West of Anduin - yesno
Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither
Anduin itself - no
Labeled on a map - definitely!
Emyn Muil - no

Falls of Rauros - no

Tuor in Gondolin · 06-04-2011, 09:14 AM

Is it above the Fall of Rauros?

Mithalwen · 06-04-2011, 09:19 AM

And in case we are on the wrong course is it situated on the course of the River Anduin?

Galadriel55 · 06-04-2011, 09:28 AM

Thing - no
Person - no
Place - yes
In ME? - yes
West of Anduin - yesno
Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither
Anduin itself - no
Labeled on a map - definitely!
Emyn Muil - no
Falls of Rauros - no

Is it above Rauros - yesno.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

And in case we are on the wrong course is it situated on the course of the River Anduin?

Difficult to answer without giving it away. I guess another yesno will have to suffice.

As for the course, Emyn Muil was in the right direction.

And another hint: don't take Anduin as the center of everything. Don't concentrate on it too much.

Mithalwen · 06-04-2011, 10:48 AM

Try a different tack - is it "visited" by (a) member(s) of the fellowship during the Ring quest

Galadriel55 · 06-04-2011, 12:10 PM

Thing - no
Person - no
Place - yes
In ME? - yes
West of Anduin - yesno
Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither
Anduin itself - no
Labeled on a map - definitely!
Emyn Muil - no
Falls of Rauros - no
Is it above Rauros - yesno.
Is it situated on the course of the River Anduin? - yesno...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mith

is it "visited" by (a) member(s) of the fellowship during the Ring quest

Another difficult question... If I stick to the word "visited", then no... But If you say "Was a member of the fellowship in it during the War", then yes. All of them were.

Mithalwen · 06-04-2011, 12:30 PM

That is what I meant by visited - that someone was there rather than the place referred to... or somewhere that they probably been sometime but not that we know about.

Galadriel55 · 06-04-2011, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

That is what I meant by visited - that someone was there rather than the place referred to... or somewhere that they probably been sometime but not that we know about.

So as I said, they all have been in that place...

Mithalwen · 06-04-2011, 02:06 PM

Yes and it is the ALL that is puzzling me!!!! Very tricksy.

Mithalwen · 06-04-2011, 02:10 PM

Rohan?

06-01-2011, 04:17 PM	#6361
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	South of (the lattitude of) Orthanc? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-01-2011, 04:19 PM	#6362
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	North of Rohan? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

06-02-2011, 03:01 AM	#6363
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Yes to South of Orthanc (latitude No to North of Rohan __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-02-2011, 07:37 AM	#6365
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Sorry Pitch. I missed that on the page break. It is not west of the Misty Mountains . Wish I hadn't done a place now I have no sense of direction whatsoever. It isn't west of Anduin either. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-02-2011, 07:38 AM	#6366
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	Is it in Ithilien? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-02-2011, 07:47 AM	#6367
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	It is in Ithilien... which means I got all that tricksy east west stuff right... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-02-2011, 07:52 AM	#6368
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	Is it Henneth Annun? __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-02-2011, 10:39 AM	#6369
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Too easy? It is. Love the window on the west... __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-02-2011, 02:23 PM	#6370
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	Too easy? I don't think so. It's just that Henneth Annun is what I first think of when I hear "Ithilien". I have a (hopefully) tricksy one in mind... __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-02-2011, 03:34 PM	#6371
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Thing? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-02-2011, 03:49 PM	#6372
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	Thing - no __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-02-2011, 03:54 PM	#6373
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	person? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-02-2011, 05:09 PM	#6374
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	Thing - no Person - no __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-02-2011, 06:40 PM	#6375
Kyranger Wight Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 168	Place?

06-02-2011, 08:44 PM	#6376
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	Thing - no Person - no Place - yes __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-03-2011, 02:38 AM	#6377
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	In Middle Earth? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-03-2011, 07:09 AM	#6378
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	Thing - no Person - no Place - yes In ME? - yes __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-03-2011, 07:35 AM	#6379
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	West of the Anduin? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

06-03-2011, 07:51 AM	#6380
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	Thing - no Person - no Place - yes In ME? - yes West of Anduin - I'm tempted to say yes, but that would confuse everyone... so yesno. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-03-2011, 08:40 AM	#6381
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Ooh Couple of options spring to mind.. Tol Brandir? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-03-2011, 12:48 PM	#6382
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	The Carrock? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

06-03-2011, 01:28 PM	#6383
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	Thing - no Person - no Place - yes In ME? - yes West of Anduin - yesno Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither evil laugh I will give clues if you need them, because I came up with something... unordinary. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-03-2011, 01:34 PM	#6384
Pitchwife Wight of the Old Forest Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Unattended on the railway station, in the litter at the dancehall Posts: 3,329	Anduin itself? __________________ Und aus dem Erebos kamen viele seelen herauf der abgeschiedenen toten.- Homer, Odyssey, Canto XI

06-03-2011, 01:38 PM	#6385
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	Thing - no Person - no Place - yes In ME? - yes West of Anduin - yesno Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither Anduin itself - good guess, but no. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-03-2011, 02:06 PM	#6386
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Is it a place that wouldcould be shown named on a map? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-03-2011, 02:13 PM	#6387
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	Thing - no Person - no Place - yes In ME? - yes West of Anduin - yesno Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither Anduin itself - no Labeled on a map - definitely! __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-04-2011, 07:16 AM	#6388
Kyranger Wight Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 168	Emyn Muil?

06-04-2011, 07:54 AM	#6389
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	Thing - no Person - no Place - yes In ME? - yes West of Anduin - yesno Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither Anduin itself - no Labeled on a map - definitely! Emyn Muil - another good guess, but no again. __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-04-2011, 08:36 AM	#6390
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Falls of Rauros? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-04-2011, 08:41 AM	#6391
Galadriel55 Blossom of Dwimordene Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: The realm of forgotten words Posts: 10,470	Thing - no Person - no Place - yes In ME? - yes West of Anduin - yesno Carrock, Tol Brandir - neither Anduin itself - no Labeled on a map - definitely! Emyn Muil - no Falls of Rauros - no __________________ You passed from under darkened dome, you enter now the secret land. - Take me to Finrod's fabled home!... ~ Finrod: The Rock Opera

06-04-2011, 09:14 AM	#6392
Tuor in Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Southeast Pennsylvania Posts: 3,651	Is it above the Fall of Rauros? __________________ The poster formerly known as Tuor of Gondolin. Walking To Rivendell and beyond 12,555 miles passed Nt./Day 5: Pass the beacon on Nardol, the 'Fire Hill.'

06-04-2011, 09:19 AM	#6393
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	And in case we are on the wrong course is it situated on the course of the River Anduin? __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-04-2011, 10:48 AM	#6395
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Try a different tack - is it "visited" by (a) member(s) of the fellowship during the Ring quest __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-04-2011, 12:30 PM	#6397
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	That is what I meant by visited - that someone was there rather than the place referred to... or somewhere that they probably been sometime but not that we know about. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace

06-04-2011, 02:06 PM	#6399
Mithalwen Pilgrim Soul Join Date: May 2004 Location: watching the wonga-wonga birds circle... Posts: 9,460	Yes and it is the ALL that is puzzling me!!!! Very tricksy. __________________ “But Finrod walks with Finarfin his father beneath the trees in Eldamar.” Christopher Tolkien, Requiescat in pace