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01-08-2008, 10:18 PM | #601 |
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Wow.. just wow.. soo many Cobblers. Good job Morm, and thanks TP and Fea for a good game.
First time being a Cobbler.. err secret Cobbler and I must say I was most confused as to how to do it right. I was so sure that Nerwen was actually innocent.. when I saw she was a wolf.. I wanted to bang my head against the screen. :P
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01-09-2008, 01:47 AM | #602 |
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The thought that we were all cobblers first occurred to me just after day 1. I actually considered starting to drop wolf hints to some players (Legate and Shasta, mainly).
My goal was to get lynched on the last day. So if morm hadn't retracted and voted me, I would have retracted him and voted Saucie- it wouldn't have mattered then if Saucie had managed to come back. Anyway, thanks for a wonderful and very interesting game & narrations, phantom and Fea! And congratulations to morm.
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01-09-2008, 05:40 AM | #603 |
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01-09-2008, 06:50 AM | #604 |
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Oh man... I hope there will be a good old normal game after this cause this one really confused me.
I was quite sure Nerwen was a wolf so tried to defend her somehow in the beginning, unfortunately failed at that. Then I actually thought that Boro and Farael were bluffing and so voted for Mac. And afterwards I really didn't know what to think...figures why?! Good game everyone, especially Farael, who did a great job as a seer. In the end it really would have been near to impossible for the 3 gifteds to win this game...and they were actually quite close.
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01-09-2008, 07:10 AM | #605 |
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Truly the phantom is as great as he thinks he is ;)
I loved following this game and have to say that all the ordos being cobblers actually made them all play "properly" IE speak out and not worry about own necks. That is probably why you were so successful.
Brilliant utterly brilliant
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01-09-2008, 07:33 AM | #606 | |
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That'll probably push the true seer out of hiding, and if you don't manage to get him lynched that day, the wolves will get to it soon enough!
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01-09-2008, 07:52 AM | #607 | |
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We were specifically instructed not to do anything crazy so I felt that would qualify as crazy.
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I admit counting too much on the thought that Mac wouldn't be a wolf thrice in a row. But Mac and Nog's argument on Day 1 looked so pre-planned that I thought it could be possible they were the hunter and ranger and deliberately taking distance. Of course the thought of two teams never occurred to me. Quote:
Just to satisfy my curiosity, some questions to the phantom. In the role pm you said we were to appear as innocents but there was one situation in which you could have allowed it to change. What would that situation have been? And would the game have ended if we had killed the wolf or would we have continued lynching one another? And to the wolves... Which team killed which person?
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01-09-2008, 12:30 PM | #611 |
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I asked him that. He said "Probably."
Well... he said more than that, and it was funny, but you'll have to ask him about the last two thirds of his response.
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Concerning Wolves, I was sure Mac is one from Day 1, later from Day 3 I also thought about Rikae. I thought both Nog and Nerwen innocent. In the last phase, I was quite inclined to think that Morm is a wolf (and I was quite happy that everyone was inclined to trust him), however, there were moments when I was not sure if there could not be anyone else (namely SpM on the Day when Farael revealed himself and Kath later). Quote:
Anyway, that was a funny game... but phantom, despite the fact I really liked it, I am hereby saying, and I MEAN it, that you will NEVER ever get me to play YOUR game again. NEVER! And btw great job, Gifteds, especially Farael. If you were not in a village full of cobblers, I am sure you could have won...
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Go morm! You brought home the victory for us!
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Two questions for Nerwen: did you try to kill me because you found me innocentish/seerish or because you thought I was a competing wolf. And who did you attempt to kill the first night? Last but not least: Kudos to Farael! You and Boro clearly played best in this game! PS: I knew there was something wrong with Aganzir. Although, considering the fact that there was something wrong with almost everybody, this doesn't seem like a great accomplishment. |
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01-09-2008, 02:33 PM | #614 | |
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01-09-2008, 03:02 PM | #615 |
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I actually was sure at one point that you were a wolf because I knew the gifted by then and you seemed not cobblerish and therefore must be a wolf.
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01-09-2008, 03:03 PM | #616 | |
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And one more thing. I am not quite sure if morm's victory is a positive thing for us Cobblers. Yes, a Wolf has won, but I would say we should not celebrate the fact that one Wolf has won, but rather be happy that at least one Wolf remained till the end, otherwise we could already be kicking ourselves what miserable Cobblers we are. The last thing that remains for our professional pride is the fact that at least morm remained alive.
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01-09-2008, 03:08 PM | #617 |
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It's starting to make sense now...
After being lynched on Day1 I just couldn't believe it. Was I playing that badly? I didn't think so. But yes, gathering all those votes from cobblers (and one wolf) that's more understandable. Mac I must agree with you at least on one thing. Your first post screamed wolf to me and I was (maybe too) happy to go after you then. So I was doing some pretty sincere wolf-hunting there as well. And ending with Mac and Rikae as my main candidates wasn't that bad on the basis of Day1. I indeed PM'd Nerwen before being declared dead that she should try to go for the two so I believe Nerwen was behind the attack on Mac on that Night. I also said to tp that there was something that was overall strange in that voting on Day1. I can now see why that was. I don't remember reading a game I have dropped early on this enthusiastically! At one point I remember making tallies about voting just to stay on top of things while reading. Sadly I've had very busy days lately and lost much of the suspense of the last Days. But excellent game indeed! (if sadly short from my part) A bow to phantom for a genuine idea and to Fea for intriguing narrations. And Farael sure was phenomenal. Even if I were a wolf I started to symphatise the villagers because of him and Boro. Sadly that was so wrong as there were no other goodies to symphatise.
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01-09-2008, 03:13 PM | #618 |
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Legate!
When you suddenly turned around and retracted to vote for me in the end of the Day1 I almost yelled out "et tu mi Brute!" to my computer as I couldn't believe you could be doing that on those grounds... I can see the point now... Well done!
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01-09-2008, 03:29 PM | #619 | |
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I am really sorry you died that early - but I'm sure you understand. Looking at it from my point of view, an innocent Nogrod who has this close to be lynched, and I am (as I thought) the only Cobbler in the village, and I can do that - now that would be a wonderful thing to do, wouldn't it?
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01-09-2008, 03:34 PM | #620 | |
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It sure is tempting to try the style I used on the first Day of SPM's game, which is to vote the person you suspect the least - in cases unlike Farael 's revelation. I'm glad Mac didn't try to impersonate the Seer and did find it odd that Farael wasn't trusted outright for the lack of a competing "Seer". |
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01-09-2008, 03:43 PM | #621 | |
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But as I said before: well done. That was a reasonable move from you Legate. But at that time I had no idea that you - and indeed the rest of the village - were cobblers. So thence my reaction then.
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01-09-2008, 05:27 PM | #623 |
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Ah yes... the day of my revelation. I had meant on commenting on this, but then I got all caught up on what was happening on the village.
I think I owe y'all an apology 'cos I did not think many pleasant thoughts of most of you that day.... was I ever thinking the whole barrow downs had gone brain-dead!!my oh my... and Legate you helped the wolves more than what you'd know... the day I revealed, and having two "known" ordos, I figured that making sure they were trully ordos was more important than finding the last wolf, as I knew they were likely to be trusted inherently and may have coasted to a win if they had been the cursed. It would've been a toss-up as to whom I'd dream of, Morm or Saucie, but odds are I would've dreamt of Morm as SPM had seem ordo-ish to me. However, your reasoning for voting me was just awful "I would feel bad for Lynching Macalaure and finding him an ordo while I wouldn't feel as bad voting for Farael and finding him the seer" and so I figured I should probably dream of you as there was something going on GAH! you cobblers you
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01-09-2008, 09:18 PM | #625 |
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Saucie you are trully, fully and verily evil....ly
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01-09-2008, 09:48 PM | #626 |
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STARTING ROLES
WW TEAM 1- Nogrod & Nerwen WW TEAM 2- Mac & Rikae SEER- Farael RANGER- Boromir HUNTER- Valier COBBLERS- Aganzir, Azaelia, Eomer, Isabellkya, Kath, Legate, morm, Shasta, The Might, SPM GAME SUMMARY NIGHT 1 Farael's dream = SPM, appears Innocent (actually Secret Cobbler) DAY 1 Lynch = Nogrod, Werewolf NIGHT 2 Farael's dream = Boromir, Ranger Boromir protects = Farael, Seer Nog/Nerwen kill choice = Rikae, Werewolf Mak/Rikae kill choice = Shasta, Secret Cobbler Actual kill = Shasta, Secret Cobbler DAY 2 Lynch = Valier, Hunter Hunter Choice = morm, Secret Cobbler Killed by participation rule = Azaelia, Secret Cobbler NIGHT 3 Farael's dream = Mac, Werewolf Boromir protects = Mac, Werewolf Nerwen kill choice = Mac, Werewolf Mac/Rikae kill choice = Eomer, Secret Cobbler Actual kill = Mac, Werewolf (protected by Boromir so no death) DAY 3 Lynch = Nerwen, Werewolf NIGHT 4 Farael's dream = Rikae, Werewolf Boromir protects = Farael, Seer Mac/Rikae kill choice = morm, Secret Cobbler (Cursed) Actual kill = morm joins Werewolf team DAY 4 Lynch = Mac, Werewolf NIGHT 5 Farael's dream = Legate, appears innocent (actually Secret Cobbler) Boromir protects = doesn't matter Rikae/morm kill choice = Boromir, Ranger DAY 5 Lynch = Rikae, Werewolf NIGHT 6 Farael's dream = Eomer, appears innocent (actually Secret Cobbler) morm kill choice = Farael, Seer DAY 6 Lynch = The Might NIGHT 7 morm kill choice = Eomer, Secret Cobbler DAY 7 Lynch = Isabellkya, Secret Cobbler NIGHT 8 morm kill choice = Legate, Secret Cobbler DAY 8 Lynch = Aganzir, Secret Cobbler NIGHT 9 morm kill choice = SPM, Secret Cobbler ENDGAME morm kills Kath, Secret Cobbler
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Great play from everyone, by the way! You cannot believe how amazing it was to watch the action with full knowledge of roles. Yes, I put Mac and Rikae together on purpose. Yes, morm was Cursed from the beginning. However, if the WWs would have selected someone else that night I was going to flip a coin to see if that person would be the new Cursed. I had Farael and Boromir "survive" the game partly because a Cobbler broke the participation rule. And don't feel too bad, Azaelia. Your timing mistake was an honest one, and quite frankly I would've been disappointed if I was not given a chance to dispatch someone with Mod-fire. I did it to Lhuna in the first game I modded, and it was fun, and I was itching to do it again.
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01-09-2008, 10:10 PM | #628 |
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And special thanks to Fea. My schedule got crazy a few times, and I could not have made it through the game without her. And even if I could have, I still would have wanted her to write for me.
Excellent job! *clap clap clap*
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01-10-2008, 03:54 PM | #630 |
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Hi everyone. Good game. I really enjoyed most of it (though I must admit my interest lessened when roles were not discovered on death).
Very unique idea, phantom. I like the whole Ulmo story.
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01-11-2008, 08:51 AM | #631 |
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I'm very relieved most of my theories, thoughts and brilliant plans were never made public and only discussed in private. The mods and audience would have been even more amused about our cluelessness (and at times, excitement because we seriously believed we'd figured it out). No, I am not going to share.
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Greetings, all! I just got back from a trip and I've been reading through all the posts. I do think it's funny that the fact that just about everyone was evil actually facilitated wolf-hunting in the first part of the game!
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