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Estelyn Telcontar · 02-05-2005, 08:14 AM

No further clues needed - I took the time to work it out and found the quote! It's from Roverandom, and the passage names the speaker:

Quote:

'It makes me homesick,' said the moon-dog. 'It's just like the stuff that used to fall in the town where I was a puppy - on the world, you know. O! the chimneys there, tall as moon-trees; and the black smoke; and the red furnace fires! I get a bit tired of white at times. It's very difficult to get really dirty on the moon.'

Did this remind you of the snow in Switzerland at this time of year?

Guinevere · 02-05-2005, 09:00 AM

d and h added

Quote:

"-t/ m--es/ me/ h-mes---/," (....) "-t's/ --st/ l--e/ the/ st---/ th-t/ -sed/ t-/ --ll/ -n/ the/ t--n/ -here/ -/ --s/ -/ -----/ (-) -n/ the/ --rld/, ---/ -n--/. -/! the/ -h--ne-s/ there/, t-ll/ -s/ m--n/(-) trees/; -nd/ the/ -l---/ sm--e/; -nd/ the/ re-/ --rn--e/ --res/!"

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-05-2005, 01:44 PM

Esty pokes Guinevere - I already solved it!

Guinevere · 02-05-2005, 02:31 PM

*slaps head*
I'm sorry, I had only been looking at the bottom of the previous page, and didn't notice the next page at all.
Well, in town the snow really is grimy !

But in 2 weeks I'll go skiing in the mountains!

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-05-2005, 03:23 PM

-- --- ----- ---- - ---- ------ -- --- ----, --- -- ------ - ----; --- --- ---- ----, ------- --- ----------- --------, --- --------- --- --- ---- --------- -----.

Guinevere · 02-05-2005, 03:43 PM

T's please

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-05-2005, 03:48 PM

-t --- ----- --t- - ---- -----t -- t-- ----, --- -t ------ - t---; --- t-- t--- ----, ------- --t ----------- --------, --- t-------- --t t-- ---t ---t--t-- ---t-.

Tuor of Gondolin · 02-05-2005, 04:13 PM

"i"s?

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-06-2005, 08:47 AM

It --- ----- -it- - ---- -----t i- t-- -i--, --- it ------ - t---; --- t-- t--- ----, ----i-- --t i---------- --------, --- t-----i-- --t t-- ---t ---t--ti- ---t-.

Guinevere · 02-06-2005, 10:05 AM

Can I have the A's ?

Tuor of Gondolin · 02-06-2005, 11:04 AM

"n"s, please.

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-06-2005, 11:21 AM

It -a- ----n -it- a --a- -a---t in t-- -in-, an- it ---a-- a t---; an- t-- t--- ----, --n-in- --t inn----a--- --an----, an- t-----in- --t t-- ---t -anta-ti- ---t-.

Guinevere · 02-06-2005, 01:25 PM

It's the description of Niggle's picture:

Quote:

It had begun with a leaf caught in the wind, and it became a tree; and the tree grew, sending out innumerable branches, and thrusting out the most fantastic roots.

("innumerable" and "fantastic" were the clues

)
I remember this because it reminds me of Tolkien's description in the foreword of how the LotR developped .

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-06-2005, 01:29 PM

*Esty applauds

Wonderful, Guinevere! Fast work! Yes, it is a lovely quote that fits in with the autobiographical character of Niggle. Your turn next.

Guinevere · 02-07-2005, 03:26 PM

*fühlt sich gebauchpinselt*

Thank you Esty!

Quote:

- ---'- --- --- --- ----- -'---- ------- ----' ----- ------ -- -----' ----
---- --- ----- -- --- ---- -'-- ------'- ---

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-07-2005, 03:56 PM

Well, I will do something completely unexpected and ask for the Ts, please.

(I am very curious what anyone trying to translate your comment will think, Guinevere!

)

Guinevere · 02-07-2005, 04:34 PM

Here are the favoured T's

Quote:

- ---'t --- --- t-- ----- -'t--- --t---t ----' ----- ------ -- -----' ----
--t- t-- ----- -- --- ---- -'-- --t---'- ---

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-08-2005, 05:20 AM

Please add the Ssssssssss...

Guinevere · 02-08-2005, 08:19 AM

S added

Quote:

- ---'t s-- --- t-- ----s -'t--- --t---t ----' ----- s----- -- -----' ----
--t- t-- s---- -- --- s--- -'-- --t---'s ---

Tuor of Gondolin · 02-08-2005, 06:44 PM

(a poetic choice) "e"s?

Guinevere · 02-09-2005, 02:39 AM

and e

Quote:

- ---'t see --- t-e ---es -'t-ee --t---t ----' -e--e s----- -- -----' --ee
--t- t-e s---- -- t-e s--- -'-- --t-e-'s ---

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-09-2005, 02:54 AM

How about some Ds?

Guinevere · 02-09-2005, 03:27 AM

d added

Quote:

- d--'t see --- t-e ---es -'t-ee
--t---t ----' -e--e s----d -- -----' --ee
--t- t-e s---- -- t-e s--- -'-- --t-e-'s ---

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-09-2005, 08:18 AM

...and H, please

Guinevere · 02-09-2005, 09:59 AM

Here you are...

Quote:

- d--'t see -h- the ---es -'thee
--th--t ----' -e--e sh---d -- -----' --ee
--th the sh--- -- the sh-- -'-- --the-'s ---

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-09-2005, 03:32 PM

Ah, that one was a bit tricky, but now I found it - it's Tom, speaking to the Troll in The Adventures of Tom Bombadil:

Quote:

I don't see why the likes o' thee
Without axin' leave should go makin' free
With the shank or the shin o' my father's kin;

Guinevere · 02-10-2005, 01:40 AM

That's it! Well done, Esty!

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-10-2005, 03:07 AM

-'-- --- - ---- -- -- ------... - ---- -- -- ---- -- --- ------ ---, -- ---- --- ----- --- ---- ----.

Tuor of Gondolin · 02-10-2005, 06:28 PM

"s"s?

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-11-2005, 04:03 AM

-'-- --- - ---- -- -- --s---... - ---- -- -- ---- -- --- ------ ---, s- ---- --s ----- --- ---- ----.

Guinevere · 02-11-2005, 02:21 PM

i please

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-11-2005, 04:08 PM

Good choice!

I'-- --- - --i- i- -- i-si--... I ---- -- -- ---- -- --- -i---- ---, s- ---- -is ----- --- ---- ----.

Guinevere · 02-11-2005, 05:17 PM

I must ask you for some t's as well ...

Tuor of Gondolin · 02-11-2005, 06:03 PM

"l"s, please.

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-12-2005, 07:06 AM

I'-- --t - --i- i- -- i-si--... I ---t t- -- ---- t- t-- littl- ---, s- t--t -is ----- --- ---- t---.

Guinevere · 02-13-2005, 07:52 AM

aha!

It's Roverandom speaking to the Man-in-the-Moon:

"I've got a pain in my inside," he said. "I want to go back to the little boy, so that his dream can come true."

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-13-2005, 08:48 AM

Excellent, with so few letters to go by, Guinevere! I found that quote so cute - a very childlike definition of longing and homesickness. Now I look forward to your new quote!

Guinevere · 02-15-2005, 01:26 PM

Thank you, Esty!

Quote:

"---- ---- ---- -'-- ---- -- ------- ------- , --- ---- ---- - ----'- -- ------ ---- -----."

Estelyn Telcontar · 02-15-2005, 04:01 PM

Ts, please

Guinevere · 02-15-2005, 04:25 PM

lots of t's

Quote:

"T--- t--- t--t -'-- ---- -- ---t--- ------- , --t t--- t--- - ----'t -- ------ ---- -----."

02-05-2005, 01:44 PM	#443
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Esty pokes Guinevere - I already solved it! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-05-2005, 02:31 PM	#444
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	correct, of course ! slaps head I'm sorry, I had only been looking at the bottom of the previous page, and didn't notice the next page at all. Well, in town the snow really is grimy ! But in 2 weeks I'll go skiing in the mountains! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat! Last edited by Guinevere; 02-07-2005 at 03:00 PM. Reason: had to delete a smiley that didn't work

02-05-2005, 03:23 PM	#445
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	New quote -- --- ----- ---- - ---- ------ -- --- ----, --- -- ------ - ----; --- --- ---- ----, ------- --- ----------- --------, --- --------- --- --- ---- --------- -----. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-05-2005, 03:43 PM	#446
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	T's please __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

02-05-2005, 03:48 PM	#447
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	T for you -t --- ----- --t- - ---- -----t -- t-- ----, --- -t ------ - t---; --- t-- t--- ----, ------- --t ----------- --------, --- t-------- --t t-- ---t ---t--t-- ---t-. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-05-2005, 04:13 PM	#448
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	"i"s? __________________ Aure Entuluva!

02-06-2005, 08:47 AM	#449
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	plus I It --- ----- -it- - ---- -----t i- t-- -i--, --- it ------ - t---; --- t-- t--- ----, ----i-- --t i---------- --------, --- t-----i-- --t t-- ---t ---t--ti- ---t-. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-06-2005, 10:05 AM	#450
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	Can I have the A's ? __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

02-06-2005, 11:04 AM	#451
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	"n"s, please. __________________ Aure Entuluva!

02-06-2005, 11:21 AM	#452
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Na It -a- ----n -it- a --a- -a---t in t-- -in-, an- it ---a-- a t---; an- t-- t--- ----, --n-in- --t inn----a--- --an----, an- t-----in- --t t-- ---t -anta-ti- ---t-. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-06-2005, 01:29 PM	#454
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Esty applauds Wonderful, Guinevere! Fast work! Yes, it is a lovely quote that fits in with the autobiographical character of Niggle*. Your turn next. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-07-2005, 03:56 PM	#456
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Well, I will do something completely unexpected and ask for the Ts, please. (I am very curious what anyone trying to translate your comment will think, Guinevere! ) __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-08-2005, 05:20 AM	#458
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	ST again Please add the Ssssssssss... __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-08-2005, 06:44 PM	#460
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	(a poetic choice) "e"s? __________________ Aure Entuluva!

02-09-2005, 02:54 AM	#462
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	How about some Ds? __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-09-2005, 08:18 AM	#464
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	...and H, please __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-10-2005, 01:40 AM	#467
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	That's it! Well done, Esty! __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

02-10-2005, 03:07 AM	#468
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	New quote -'-- --- - ---- -- -- ------... - ---- -- -- ---- -- --- ------ ---, -- ---- --- ----- --- ---- ----. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-10-2005, 06:28 PM	#469
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	"s"s? __________________ Aure Entuluva!

02-11-2005, 04:03 AM	#470
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Ssss (but we only has three) -'-- --- - ---- -- -- --s---... - ---- -- -- ---- -- --- ------ ---, s- ---- --s ----- --- ---- ----. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-11-2005, 02:21 PM	#471
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	i please __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

02-11-2005, 04:08 PM	#472
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Good choice! I'-- --- - --i- i- -- i-si--... I ---- -- -- ---- -- --- -i---- ---, s- ---- -is ----- --- ---- ----. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-11-2005, 05:17 PM	#473
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	I must ask you for some t's as well ... __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

02-11-2005, 06:03 PM	#474
Tuor of Gondolin Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Pennsylvania, WtR, passed Sarn Gebir: Above the rapids (1239 miles) BtR, passed Black Rider Stopping Place (31 miles) Posts: 1,548	"l"s, please. __________________ Aure Entuluva!

02-12-2005, 07:06 AM	#475
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	+ T and L I'-- --t - --i- i- -- i-si--... I ---t t- -- ---- t- t-- littl- ---, s- t--t -is ----- --- ---- t---. __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-13-2005, 07:52 AM	#476
Guinevere Banshee of Camelot Join Date: May 2002 Location: Switzerland Posts: 5,830	aha! It's Roverandom speaking to the Man-in-the-Moon: "I've got a pain in my inside," he said. "I want to go back to the little boy, so that his dream can come true." __________________ Yes! "wish-fulfilment dreams" we spin to cheat our timid hearts, and ugly Fact defeat!

02-13-2005, 08:48 AM	#477
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Excellent, with so few letters to go by, Guinevere! I found that quote so cute - a very childlike definition of longing and homesickness. Now I look forward to your new quote! __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'

02-15-2005, 04:01 PM	#479
Estelyn Telcontar Princess of Skwerlz Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles) Posts: 7,500	Ts, please __________________ 'Mercy!' cried Gandalf. 'If the giving of information is to be the cure of your inquisitiveness, I shall spend all the rest of my days in answering you. What more do you want to know?' 'The whole history of Middle-earth...'