Dueling Wizards Werewolf II discussion thread - The Barrow-Downs Discussion Forum

Nogrod · 05-09-2008, 01:45 PM

It's coming!

The game starts at June 1st with a Night-phase!

I open this thread now for all those interested to join in the discussion of the DW II.

The game will not start before the 25th of May - and it will most likely take a few days from that to start in the end even if we have all the players we need.

(I will be away from home between May the 17th to 25th - I may have internet access but that will be random and limited in time during that period)

I'll post the preliminary rules post in a few days but all those already familiar with the game and the discussions - and all those not familiar as well - can join the discussion of the finer details as well as general principles.

The earlier game suggestion thread posted by lmp the game inventer after the first game was played is to be found from here. The current game's discussion starts on page 2 from post #79. Although I now hope all that discussion could be transferred here into the one and same place.

I'll post a preliminary player-list this far asap. Those who have not made any comments after the earlier burst of discussion on this matter please comfirm your participation and join the discussion - or in the sad case tell me if you're not able to join.

I'm taking in "applications" to take the role of a wizard via PM.

DO NOT SAY IT ALOUD HERE OR ELSEWHERE THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO BE A WIZARD!!!

No application as such is needed but a declaration of your willingess. And if you have a preference over which one you would like to be it will be taken into consideration.

I might do with two sub-mods (an evil and a good one) but those roles might not be necessary - depending on when the game starts. But if someone would wish to have that kind of task please let me know as well. That you can do in this thread as well.

Gwathagor · 05-09-2008, 01:52 PM

Hey, I absolutely want to play.

EDIT: 700th Post

Nogrod · 05-09-2008, 02:09 PM

The possible players so far - those who have told me they are in or shown an interest lately or in the earlier discussion (sorry if I missed someone - just let me know you're in!).

Please let me know your current situation if the game starts in the end of May / early June - and invite your friends as well. A good game of Dueling Wizards would take something like a village of twenty something.

I'll be putting a + before every player who has comfirmed her/his participation and I will start adding questionmarks if needs be - and will gladly add names to the list.

+ A Little Green, a fortune-teller - folklorist - herb-grower - unofficial therapist, advisor and midwife, most presumably a witch, the gammer (the eccentric mother of Lommy & Mac)
+ Shastanis Althreduin, astrologer/fortune teller, gaffer (Greenie's husband, father of Lommy & Mac)

+ Thinlómien, a bird tamer, adult (married to Nilp, Macalaure's sister)
+ Nilpaurion Felagund, a house-bound sandwich-maker, adult (married to Lommy)
+ Kath, 20 (their daughter, Brinn's life partner)
+ Satansaloser 2005, Lommy's assistant, 17 (their daughter)
+ Eönwë (their son)

+ Macalaure, apple farmer, adult (married to Rikae, Lommy's brother)
+ Rikae, a lumberjack, adult (married to Macalaure, Roa's sister)
+ the phantom, sheep herder with Legate, 21 (their adopted son, Di's brother)
+ Diamond 18, dissolute, 11 (phantom's pre-teen littlesister)

+ Cailín, guinea pig breeder, adult (Nilp's sister)
(Eomer of the Rohirrim, Cailín's husband, Lhuna's father)
+ Lhunardawen, healer's apprentice, 20 (Cailín's daughter, good twin of Durelin)
+ Durelin, poisoner 20 (Lhuna's evil twin, daughter of Cailín)

+ Volo, the guy who knows everything about staying alive, the gaffer (Father of Nogrod, morm, Nerwen and Lalaith)

(Nogrod, the judge, Roa's husband, father of Legate, Brinn and Kit)
+ Roa_Aoife, school teacher, adult (mother of Legate, Brinn and Kit, wife of Nogrod, sister of Rikae)
+ Brinniel, Greenie's apprentice, 21 (Legate's sister and Kitanna's twin sister, Kath's life partner)
+ Kitanna, a tavern wench 21 (Legate's sister and Brinn's twin sister)
+ Legate of Amon Lanc, sheep herder with tp, 19 (brother of Brinn & Kit, Sally's boyfriend, Agan's ex-bf)

+ Nerwen, the healer, adult (sister of Lalaith, Volo's daughter)

+ Lalaith, chocolate maker, adult (sister of Nerwen, mother of Aganzir, Volo's daughter)
+ Aganzir, the little match girl, 15 (Lalaith's daughter, dates McCaber)
+ The Ka, a dog whipper (a fatherless and ageless little child of Lalaith)

+ Mormegil, adult (son of Volo, husband of Celuien, father of Gwath and McCaber)
+ Celuien, adult (wife of morm, mother of Gwath and McCaber)
+ Gwathagor, a highwayman, 20 (McCaber's big brother)
+ McCaber, a henchman, 18 (Gwath's little brother, dates Aganzir)

Azaelia of Willowbottom?

Everyone is welcome! The more the better as one of the points of this game is to crerate a village-like feeling where not everyone knows what is going on...

EDIT: The divisions do not represent any caste-system but merely the ones with + are those confirmed, the others are those who have shown their interest just in a short while.

Thinlómien · 05-09-2008, 02:27 PM

What an impressive list.

I'm so excited.

Gwathagor · 05-09-2008, 02:48 PM

It has the makings of a truly epic game.

Nogrod · 05-09-2008, 06:24 PM

Like in Dueling Wizards I you all are encouraged to make families yourselves!

Last time that thing worked just fantastically as it eased Day1 and in a way Day2 but still was left to its own in the end. And how much fun it offered to the players...

So just propose marriages or negotiate for sister-/brotherhood or deal / suggest to be a father / mother, a children or an aunt or an uncle of someone... or whatever you come by!

The less we have "unconnected" persons the better. Just brave yourselves to it!

Nilpaurion Felagund · 05-09-2008, 09:26 PM

++Nilpaurion Felagund

You have my suicidal tendencies.

Thinlómien, will you marry me?

Nerwen · 05-09-2008, 11:36 PM

++Nerwen

...Er, meaning I'm in, not out.

satansaloser2005 · 05-09-2008, 11:54 PM

Sorry, felt the need to post. Noggie, stop making the game sound so good! I mean, the description, the PM you sent me earlier, and now the player list? I'm bloody salivating to play! I swear to you, if there's any way I can get some internet over the summer I'm playing. And if that happens, you all will be the first to know. *hangs head in internet-less shame*

Brinniel · 05-10-2008, 12:09 AM

++Brinniel

Hurray! Now that I'm home and with nothing interesting going on in my life, I'm ready for another WW game to entertain me.

Lhunardawen · 05-10-2008, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

++Nilpaurion Felagund

You have my suicidal tendencies.

Thinlómien, will you marry me?

The guy's suicidal indeed. Nogrod, I swear I will not stop you if you want to chase him with a rifle or whatever it is dads do in situations like this.

A Little Green · 05-10-2008, 04:48 AM

Count me in. I can't miss this one.

Thinlómien · 05-10-2008, 05:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lhunardawen

Nogrod, I swear I will not stop you if you want to chase him with a rifle or whatever it is dads do in situations like this.

But I will.

Yes, I'll marry you Nilp. Now we just need a kid or two. (And no, you're not asked anything.

) So anyone planning to play a child in this game, we'll be happy to adopt you. And also, if there's someone who is planning to play a gammer or a gaffer, feel free to adopt me (and in that case, take the rifle-chasing responsibility from Nogrod...). Also, I don't mind having siblings, or cousins, or any other kind of relatives.

sally - I hope you'll find a way to participate in this game, even if it requires some dramatic means like robbing a bank or something...

Azaelia of Willowbottom · 05-10-2008, 07:25 AM

I'd love to play! I have a prior commitment on the 27th, and I'll have to see how things work out with my summer job, so keep me on the list, with a question mark. I need to see how things turn out once I get home from school.

This game is going to be SO much fun, and I'm really looking forward to it!

Kitanna · 05-10-2008, 11:19 AM

I am in or at least that is my hope. School is over and though I am starting a new job I can dedicate a decent amount of time to a WW game. However depending on when days begin and end I may be absent at deadlines.

satansaloser2005 · 05-10-2008, 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

But I will.

Yes, I'll marry you Nilp. Now we just need a kid or two. (And no, you're not asked anything.

) So anyone planning to play a child in this game, we'll be happy to adopt you. And also, if there's someone who is planning to play a gammer or a gaffer, feel free to adopt me (and in that case, take the rifle-chasing responsibility from Nogrod...). Also, I don't mind having siblings, or cousins, or any other kind of relatives.

sally - I hope you'll find a way to participate in this game, even if it requires some dramatic means like robbing a bank or something...

Don't give me any ideas love....

Actually....Noggie, even the slightest idea when the DL would be for this?

Celuien · 06-01-2008, 08:17 AM

Sorry - been away taking care of moving issues for the past couple of days...

I think I shall be a candle maker.

Isabellkya · 06-01-2008, 02:04 PM

Is it too late to join?

I'd love to play, if still possible.

If so.. may I be your sister Shasta?

Hmm.. A girl whom loves asparagus and throwing knives. :P

Nogrod · 06-01-2008, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Isabellkya

If so.. may I be your sister Shasta?

Hmm.. A girl whom loves asparagus and throwing knives. :P

If you're Shasta's sister you won't be "a girl" but the "gammer" who loves to throw knives - which indeed sounds a lot better!

Nogrod · 06-01-2008, 05:35 PM

It seems the 'Downs clock is once again a bit twisted.

I sent the narration of Night1 at 11 PM GMT sharp but the thread shows it is sent at 10.56 PM GMT.

So we will follow the real time and not the 'Downs time so long as they are two different things.

I will end the Days immediately when my computer's clock turns into 11.01 PM GMT (I will have the post ready and click it in when the minute changes) and thence all the votes that have been posted before that are counted in and all those coming after it will not be counted.

I will check the rules for the wizards and make a few extra rulings on the basis of my discussions with the wizards.

I will also be sending you an airview of the village tomorrow so that you can see how the village looks like and may use it in your posts if you wish. I will myself use that in the narrations anyhow.

Good game for everyone!

Aganzir · 06-01-2008, 05:46 PM

I wonder if it's a sign of addiction that a few days ago I adjusted my computer clock so that it would be in accordance with the Downs clock...

I'm not sure if it's a good idea to end the days about five minutes earlier than what the Downs clock shows. It might work vice versa, but I'm afraid that this would cause people to mess up the deadline.
Wouldn't it be easier to consider the Downs time as the real one?

Shastanis Althreduin · 06-01-2008, 02:05 PM

A chandler!

Good, we needed one. I'd like to place an order, please. One dozen candles of every color, to be delivered promptly upon finish.

Edit: Isabell! You made it! Certainly you may be my sister, if you don't mind being advanced in ages. I'm a grandfather now.

Nogrod · 06-01-2008, 04:05 PM

Isabell will be Shasta's sister so also Greenie's sister in law! One more gammer to the village! Yay!

The game begins within an hour and the roles will be sent then.

It will be Night1 first so only those with roles will have something to do the first Night . The Day1 breaks in 25 hours...

I'll be sending the roles to those who will initially have one around the deadline. If you receive no PM from me you can count yourself as an ordinary villager to begin with.

05-09-2008, 01:45 PM	#1
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Dueling Wizards Werewolf II discussion thread It's coming! The game starts at June 1st with a Night-phase! I open this thread now for all those interested to join in the discussion of the DW II. The game will not start before the 25th of May - and it will most likely take a few days from that to start in the end even if we have all the players we need. (I will be away from home between May the 17th to 25th - I may have internet access but that will be random and limited in time during that period) I'll post the preliminary rules post in a few days but all those already familiar with the game and the discussions - and all those not familiar as well - can join the discussion of the finer details as well as general principles. The earlier game suggestion thread posted by lmp the game inventer after the first game was played is to be found from here. The current game's discussion starts on page 2 from post #79. Although I now hope all that discussion could be transferred here into the one and same place. I'll post a preliminary player-list this far asap. Those who have not made any comments after the earlier burst of discussion on this matter please comfirm your participation and join the discussion - or in the sad case tell me if you're not able to join. I'm taking in "applications" to take the role of a wizard via PM. DO NOT SAY IT ALOUD HERE OR ELSEWHERE THAT YOU ARE WILLING TO BE A WIZARD!!! No application as such is needed but a declaration of your willingess. And if you have a preference over which one you would like to be it will be taken into consideration. I might do with two sub-mods (an evil and a good one) but those roles might not be necessary - depending on when the game starts. But if someone would wish to have that kind of task please let me know as well. That you can do in this thread as well. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 05-26-2008 at 04:21 PM.

05-09-2008, 01:52 PM	#2
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	Hey, I absolutely want to play. EDIT: 700th Post __________________ Stories and songs. Last edited by Gwathagor; 05-09-2008 at 02:01 PM.

05-09-2008, 02:09 PM	#3
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	The players The possible players so far - those who have told me they are in or shown an interest lately or in the earlier discussion (sorry if I missed someone - just let me know you're in!). Please let me know your current situation if the game starts in the end of May / early June - and invite your friends as well. A good game of Dueling Wizards would take something like a village of twenty something. I'll be putting a + before every player who has comfirmed her/his participation and I will start adding questionmarks if needs be - and will gladly add names to the list. + A Little Green, a fortune-teller - folklorist - herb-grower - unofficial therapist, advisor and midwife, most presumably a witch, the gammer (the eccentric mother of Lommy & Mac) + Shastanis Althreduin, astrologer/fortune teller, gaffer (Greenie's husband, father of Lommy & Mac) + Thinlómien, a bird tamer, adult (married to Nilp, Macalaure's sister) + Nilpaurion Felagund, a house-bound sandwich-maker, adult (married to Lommy) + Kath, 20 (their daughter, Brinn's life partner) + Satansaloser 2005, Lommy's assistant, 17 (their daughter) + Eönwë (their son) + Macalaure, apple farmer, adult (married to Rikae, Lommy's brother) + Rikae, a lumberjack, adult (married to Macalaure, Roa's sister) + the phantom, sheep herder with Legate, 21 (their adopted son, Di's brother) + Diamond 18, dissolute, 11 (phantom's pre-teen littlesister) + Cailín, guinea pig breeder, adult (Nilp's sister) (Eomer of the Rohirrim, Cailín's husband, Lhuna's father) + Lhunardawen, healer's apprentice, 20 (Cailín's daughter, good twin of Durelin) + Durelin, poisoner 20 (Lhuna's evil twin, daughter of Cailín) + Volo, the guy who knows everything about staying alive, the gaffer (Father of Nogrod, morm, Nerwen and Lalaith) (Nogrod, the judge, Roa's husband, father of Legate, Brinn and Kit) + Roa_Aoife, school teacher, adult (mother of Legate, Brinn and Kit, wife of Nogrod, sister of Rikae) + Brinniel, Greenie's apprentice, 21 (Legate's sister and Kitanna's twin sister, Kath's life partner) + Kitanna, a tavern wench 21 (Legate's sister and Brinn's twin sister) + Legate of Amon Lanc, sheep herder with tp, 19 (brother of Brinn & Kit, Sally's boyfriend, Agan's ex-bf) + Nerwen, the healer, adult (sister of Lalaith, Volo's daughter) + Lalaith, chocolate maker, adult (sister of Nerwen, mother of Aganzir, Volo's daughter) + Aganzir, the little match girl, 15 (Lalaith's daughter, dates McCaber) + The Ka, a dog whipper (a fatherless and ageless little child of Lalaith) + Mormegil, adult (son of Volo, husband of Celuien, father of Gwath and McCaber) + Celuien, adult (wife of morm, mother of Gwath and McCaber) + Gwathagor, a highwayman, 20 (McCaber's big brother) + McCaber, a henchman, 18 (Gwath's little brother, dates Aganzir) Azaelia of Willowbottom? Everyone is welcome! The more the better as one of the points of this game is to crerate a village-like feeling where not everyone knows what is going on... EDIT: The divisions do not represent any caste-system but merely the ones with + are those confirmed, the others are those who have shown their interest just in a short while. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 05-28-2008 at 01:52 PM.

05-09-2008, 02:27 PM	#4
Thinlómien Shady She-Penguin Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: In a far land beyond the Sea Posts: 8,093	What an impressive list. I'm so excited. __________________ Like the stars chase the sun, over the glowing hill I will conquer Blood is running deep, some things never sleep Double Fenris

05-09-2008, 02:48 PM	#5
Gwathagor Shade with a Blade Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: A Rainy Night In Soho Posts: 2,512	It has the makings of a truly epic game. __________________ Stories and songs.

05-09-2008, 06:24 PM	#6
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Like in Dueling Wizards I you all are encouraged to make families yourselves! Last time that thing worked just fantastically as it eased Day1 and in a way Day2 but still was left to its own in the end. And how much fun it offered to the players... So just propose marriages or negotiate for sister-/brotherhood or deal / suggest to be a father / mother, a children or an aunt or an uncle of someone... or whatever you come by! The less we have "unconnected" persons the better. Just brave yourselves to it! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

05-09-2008, 09:26 PM	#7
Nilpaurion Felagund Scion of The Faithful Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: The brink, where hope and despair are akin. [The Philippines] Posts: 5,312	++Nilpaurion Felagund You have my suicidal tendencies. Thinlómien, will you marry me? __________________ フェンリス鴨 (Fenrisu Kamo) The plot, cut, defeated. I intend to copy this sig forever - so far so good...

05-09-2008, 11:36 PM	#8
Nerwen Wisest of the Noldor Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ˙˙˙ssɐןƃ ƃuıʞooן ǝɥʇ ɥƃnoɹɥʇ Posts: 6,694	++Nerwen ...Er, meaning I'm in, not out. __________________ "Even Nerwen wasn't evil in the beginning." –Elmo. Last edited by Nerwen; 05-09-2008 at 11:39 PM.

05-09-2008, 11:54 PM	#9
satansaloser2005 The Sweetest Spoiler Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: from beneath you it giggles incessantly Posts: 5,789	Sorry, felt the need to post. Noggie, stop making the game sound so good! I mean, the description, the PM you sent me earlier, and now the player list? I'm bloody salivating to play! I swear to you, if there's any way I can get some internet over the summer I'm playing. And if that happens, you all will be the first to know. hangs head in internet-less shame __________________ "My heart always cowers behind the defense of my wit." Friendship is two pals munching on a well-cooked face together. Fenris bookworm.

05-10-2008, 12:09 AM	#10
Brinniel Reflection of Darkness Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Polishing the stars. Well, somebody has to do it; they're looking a little bit dull. Posts: 2,983	++Brinniel Hurray! Now that I'm home and with nothing interesting going on in my life, I'm ready for another WW game to entertain me. __________________ Nolite te bastardes carborundorum

05-10-2008, 04:48 AM	#12
A Little Green Leaf-clad Lady Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 1,571	Count me in. I can't miss this one. __________________ "But some stories, small, simple ones about setting out on adventures or people doing wonders, tales of miracles and monsters, have outlasted all the people who told them, and some of them have outlasted the lands in which they were created."

05-10-2008, 07:25 AM	#14
Azaelia of Willowbottom Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: By the Sea Posts: 446	I'd love to play! I have a prior commitment on the 27th, and I'll have to see how things work out with my summer job, so keep me on the list, with a question mark. I need to see how things turn out once I get home from school. This game is going to be SO much fun, and I'm really looking forward to it! __________________ "Wherever I have been, I am back."

05-10-2008, 11:19 AM	#15
Kitanna Child of the West Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Watching President Fillmore ride a unicorn Posts: 2,132	I am in or at least that is my hope. School is over and though I am starting a new job I can dedicate a decent amount of time to a WW game. However depending on when days begin and end I may be absent at deadlines. __________________ "Let us live so that when we come to die even the undertaker will be sorry." - Mark Twain

06-01-2008, 08:17 AM	#17
Celuien Riveting Ribbiter Join Date: May 2005 Location: Assigned to Mordor Posts: 1,767	Sorry - been away taking care of moving issues for the past couple of days... I think I shall be a candle maker. __________________ People assume that time is a strict progression of cause to effect. But actually, from a non-linear, non-subjective viewpoint, it's more like a big ball of wibbly-wobbly, timey-wimey... stuff.

06-01-2008, 02:04 PM	#18
Isabellkya Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Amongst trees. Posts: 919	Is it too late to join? I'd love to play, if still possible. If so.. may I be your sister Shasta? Hmm.. A girl whom loves asparagus and throwing knives. :P __________________ But I was clinging to her like a homicidal monkey.

06-01-2008, 05:35 PM	#20
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	It seems the 'Downs clock is once again a bit twisted. I sent the narration of Night1 at 11 PM GMT sharp but the thread shows it is sent at 10.56 PM GMT. So we will follow the real time and not the 'Downs time so long as they are two different things. I will end the Days immediately when my computer's clock turns into 11.01 PM GMT (I will have the post ready and click it in when the minute changes) and thence all the votes that have been posted before that are counted in and all those coming after it will not be counted. I will check the rules for the wizards and make a few extra rulings on the basis of my discussions with the wizards. I will also be sending you an airview of the village tomorrow so that you can see how the village looks like and may use it in your posts if you wish. I will myself use that in the narrations anyhow. Good game for everyone! __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet...

06-01-2008, 05:46 PM	#21
Aganzir Woman of Secret Shadow Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: in hollow halls beneath the fells Posts: 4,511	I wonder if it's a sign of addiction that a few days ago I adjusted my computer clock so that it would be in accordance with the Downs clock... I'm not sure if it's a good idea to end the days about five minutes earlier than what the Downs clock shows. It might work vice versa, but I'm afraid that this would cause people to mess up the deadline. Wouldn't it be easier to consider the Downs time as the real one? __________________ He bit me, and I was not gentle.

06-01-2008, 02:05 PM	#22
Shastanis Althreduin Werewolf Psychic Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: In fire, water, earth, and air. But mostly water. Posts: 2,832	A chandler! Good, we needed one. I'd like to place an order, please. One dozen candles of every color, to be delivered promptly upon finish. Edit: Isabell! You made it! Certainly you may be my sister, if you don't mind being advanced in ages. I'm a grandfather now.

06-01-2008, 04:05 PM	#23
Nogrod Flame of the Ainulindalë Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Wearing rat's coat, crowskin, crossed staves in a field behaving as the wind behaves Posts: 9,308	Isabell will be Shasta's sister so also Greenie's sister in law! One more gammer to the village! Yay! The game begins within an hour and the roles will be sent then. It will be Night1 first so only those with roles will have something to do the first Night . The Day1 breaks in 25 hours... I'll be sending the roles to those who will initially have one around the deadline. If you receive no PM from me you can count yourself as an ordinary villager to begin with. __________________ Upon the hearth the fire is red Beneath the roof there is a bed; But not yet weary are our feet... Last edited by Nogrod; 06-01-2008 at 05:36 PM.