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Old 10-22-2005, 01:03 PM   #1
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The people that are left and the level of my suspicions on them

HirielHigh

As I said yesterday, Hiriel waiting until the last moment to vote is very suspicious to me. I made the point that it leaves her with a lot of options as to where her vote should go

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Eek. Couldn't get as much time as I thought. Hopefully, I'll get more time to disect the rest of what's gone on, but I might just have to post a quick vote in the nick of time.
In the nick of time? Hoping to save Rune perhaps? In this post (105) she also throws more suspicions onto Tar who I believe at the moment anyway, is innocent. She also examines Rune but he already had 3 votes on him and his fate was pretty much sealed

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I'll be very interested to see what happens tonight and who Rune turns out to be, and by then I should have some good theories about who has a hairy complex
I'd love to hear them Hiriel because right now you are still high on my list.

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Ghurthang, Sleepy Ranger, and Rune have travelled more and may have been lost in the forest, but this proves nothing. also, I've had strange feelings ever since I've came here, but I'd always put it down to flows of chii, or having met some of the people here in a previous life.
This is his first post it was of very little substance and he throws suspicious towards three villagers, we know Ghurthang was an innocent but Rune was indeed a wolf. My opinion on Sleepy so far is a likely innocent so was Bergil trying to throws us of sent by saying he in fact pointed at a wolf?

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++Marcolie "DEATH" Laman

I don't suspect her in the least' but I must vote for someone.
Now he “randomly” votes an innocent in his next post. Both myself and Holbytlass have talked in thread about this and how it could be seen as a not so random and even wolfish. Bergil then claims he cross posted and decides to throw suspicions onto Wayne. Shifting our focus perhaps? He is making me nervous to say the least.


EonweMedium to High

The points being made about Eonwe are quite interesting and he has moved up in my suspicions today

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um i happen to agree with sr. what good is stabbing in the dark the whole game through. logic. tell me why. what is behind it all? that is what we need to see, cold hard logic. we won't get anywere without it. but there is a great derth of that Day one. so........

++willwa there is no logic and this is a completly random vote. i didn't even do the names in a hat trick...
This Eonwe first day vote in which he in fact contradicts himself in. One breath he's saying lets use cold hard logic and in the next he goes for a complete random vote. This is strange to me as even on the first day people managed to find some logic in voting (all be it the wrong kind). Then yesterday he stands up for Rune more aggressively than myself, so this is bound to draw peoples suspicions. I cannot jump on him for this though, because I did have similar doubts

WaynetheGoblinMedium

I'm not sure about Wayne. His posts have started to annoy me slightly too but is that enough to assume he is a wolf? Not sure. I really did think he thought his vote counted on the first day, no real master plan behind that. So he could be like Rune hiding his vote in a “safe” place. The main reason I don't suspect him is because the people I do suspect (Bergil) are trying to gets us to look that way

Sleepy Ranger- low to medium

The only thing that bothered me about Sleepy was his lack of reasons when voting Glirdan on the first day. He has since cleared that up and is also another person on the Rune wagon and so in my eyes he is less suspicious right now.

Wilwarin538Low

For now I am willing to believe that she is a likely innocent. The only real suspicions people have of her is the band wagoning of Rune. She is low on my list because the only person to have voted for her is someone I suspect of being a wolf (Eonwe) and because she did in fact vote for Rune. There are arguments that she was the last vote on and could see no way to save Rune but I find this highly unlikely, for now.

Tar-ancalime, Holbytlass and THE Ka are all low on my list right now due to their posts being filled of helpful information and varying theories, but I could be completely wrong.
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:25 PM   #2
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Since I am not feeling well and doubt I will be on later I will vote now.

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This is going by Sotty's reasoning. My original plan was to vote for Wayne but Sotty's post has made me re-consider. If I am on later and any development has taken place in this matter I will retrace my vote but I don't think I'll be able to come on.
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Old 10-22-2005, 01:28 PM   #3
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I will not dignify your accusations with a rebuttal pointing out the obvous flaw. If you hadn't ruined your credibility, I could be brought to see Hiriel as a wolf.
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Old 10-22-2005, 02:37 PM   #4
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Well it seems that I have a vote. I am still suspicious of bergil.


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Old 10-22-2005, 02:59 PM   #5
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well, i'm pretty sure taht i will be able to get back on in the next hour. (after that, i wouldn't be on though ). however, if anything should come up, i would most likely have voted bergil, because he is on my List. (although he is not the highest, i want my vote to go somewhere this time).

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This Eonwe first day vote in which he in fact contradicts himself in. One breath he's saying lets use cold hard logic and in the next he goes for a complete random vote. This is strange to me as even on the first day people managed to find some logic in voting (all be it the wrong kind). Then yesterday he stands up for Rune more aggressively than myself, so this is bound to draw peoples suspicions. I cannot jump on him for this though, because I did have similar doubts
no, this is not a contradiction. the wrong kind of logic is not logic. sorry im being short, but im pressed for time right now. YOU DON"T KNOW anything on day one. ever. so ALL YOU HANVE TO GO ON IS RANDOM VOTES. but as time goes on that is when the cold hard logic comes in. ok thats all i got to run.
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Old 10-22-2005, 03:29 PM   #6
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may you me a wolf...

im off for tonight...fare thee well...
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Old 10-22-2005, 03:32 PM   #7
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firstly, there are more innocents then wolves so most random votes will be for an innocent. secondly, if you go back and look at my vote, you'll see that I voted one muinate after Gurthand, less time then it takes to think up how to say it and type it (if, like me, you type slowly, and maybe if you don't) even if I somehow managed to checK the thread at the exact time he voted. and we couldn't have planned it ahead, we'd somehow have to know she'd be believable AND have clocks showing the exact same time to the second. I think, looking back, that you just missed these facts and are likely innocent.
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Old 10-22-2005, 03:33 PM   #8
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another one for me? that's it!

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Old 10-22-2005, 03:43 PM   #9
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If I am on later and any development has taken place in this matter I will retrace my vote but I don't think I'll be able to come on.
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Old 10-22-2005, 04:24 PM   #10
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firstly, there are more innocents then wolves so most random votes will be for an innocent. secondly, if you go back and look at my vote, you'll see that I voted one muinate after Gurthand, less time then it takes to think up how to say it and type it (if, like me, you type slowly, and maybe if you don't) even if I somehow managed to checK the thread at the exact time he voted. and we couldn't have planned it ahead, we'd somehow have to know she'd be believable AND have clocks showing the exact same time to the second. I think, looking back, that you just missed these facts and are likely innocent.
This is true but in my last look though I didn't mention you voting right after Gurthang, I had accepted the cross post possibility. My point was that you had named three people and then voted for a fourth random person who in fact turned out to be innocent. Can you not see how that looks wolfy like? So far you have managed to convince a few villagers of Wayne's guilt and if I didn't suspect you then I would probably be on that wagon myself.

I do believe either you or Hiriel are one of our two remaining wolves, but I'm not convinced you both are. Hiriel in fact is on the top of my list, but your extremely defensive reaction to my observations has made me think that maybe my vote might be better served on you.
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Old 10-22-2005, 05:18 PM   #11
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I have to leave now so I will vote

++Bergil

I changed my mind from Hiriel after your extremely defensive stance to my reasoning sent up a beacon to me. I hope you are indeed a wolf, if not Hiriel I will be looking your way tomorrow.
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Old 10-22-2005, 02:57 PM   #12
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I will not dignify your accusations with a rebuttal pointing out the obvous flaw. If you hadn't ruined your credibility, I could be brought to see Hiriel as a wolf.

Please, please PLEASE point out this flaw. If I am wrong than I am wrong, I will have no problem admitting that. If you don't, this statement makes you MORE guilty in my eyes....
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