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sotty · 10-21-2005, 08:53 PM

I was pretty convinced that Kitanna was our seer after she was so right about Rune but loosing our Ranger is still a very sad loss. There is no one but the Hunter left to protect out poor village now.

I think Kitanna might have pegged more than one wolf in this list of hers

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Originally Posted by ”Kitanna”

In order I suspect these people:
1)Rune
2)Sleepy Ranger and Sotty
3)And a distant third of Bergil

Tar-ancalime is far down on that list…at least for now. I also think there is a good chance our third wolf did not vote yesterday.

That could be the reason why she was selected for the kill, that or they thought like me that she was the seer. I understand that I am also on this list and I'm sure after my post pointing out the flaws in Kitanna's, Rune theory many people will be looking my way today. At the time I made that post I wasn't solely convinced (doh!) of Rune's guilt and I wanted to try and protect the village from the loss of another innocent. Turns out I was completely wrong and now my good intentions might just land me in hot water.

tar-ancalime · 10-21-2005, 09:00 PM

YesterDAY's voting, in order:

tar-ancalime: THE Ka (THE Ka, 1)
Kitanna: Rune (THE Ka, 1; Rune, 1)
THE Ka: Rune (Rune, 2; THE Ka, 1)
Sleepy Ranger: Rune (Rune, 3; THE Ka, 1)
Wilwarin: Rune (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1)
Bergil: Wayne (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1)
Hiriel: tar-ancalime (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1)
sotty: Hiriel (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1)
Holbytlass: Sleepy Ranger (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1; Sleepy Ranger, 1)
Eonwe: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 1; five others, 1 each)
Rune: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 2; five others, 1 each)

(I didn't find a "vote" post from WaynetheGoblin--did I miss it? If so I apologize.)

Some thoughts, based solely on the voting:

An easy conclusion to jump to is that Eonwe is also a wolf; however, voting late for Kitanna, only to maul her that NIGHT, seems awfully bold to me. Eonwe is either an uncommonly bold wolf, or a convenient patsy.

Perhaps unfortunately for us innocents, Rune's fate was sealed (or nearly so) relatively early in the DAY. That gave the other two wolves plenty of time and opportunity to vote for others without establishing a particular pattern.

Let's look at the votes of the post-Rune voting crowd:

Bergil votes for Wayne, citing suspicions of Wayne's non-vote on DAY 1. (Posts 109 and 112)

Hiriel votes for tar-ancalime, citing suspicions of tar-ancalime's vote for THE Ka, as well as lingering doubts from DAY 1 (Post 114)

sotty votes for Hiriel, citing a gut feeling, as well as doubts based on Hiriel's missing the vote on DAY 1. (post 115) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this brings us to one vote each for those who didn't vote on DAY 1. (My vote, while pre-Rune for scheduling reasons, falls into this category as well. I needed to choose someone who missed the vote on DAY one, based on my theory that one of those was a wolf. I had no real compelling reason to choose THE Ka instead of Hiriel, as I stated in my post.)

Holbytlass votes for Sleepy Ranger, without giving a reason (Post 117)

Eonwe votes for Kitanna, because of Kitanna's suspicion of Rune (Post 118)

Rune votes for Kitanna for obvious reasons.

What does this tell us? Again, that Eonwe is either a bold wolf or an unfortunate innocent. That other than Rune, we as a village had no strong inclinations yesterDAY. That Wayne (again, correct me if I'm wrong) is the only villager to have no votes count at all for DAYS 1 and 2.

I'm at a loss.

THE Ka · 10-21-2005, 09:08 PM

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What does this tell us? Again, that Eonwe is either a bold wolf or an unfortunate innocent. That other than Rune, we as a village had no strong inclinations yesterDAY. That Wayne (again, correct me if I'm wrong) is the only villager to have no votes count at all for DAYS 1 and 2.

... And yet they are capable of posting right after the second night.

Hmm... Maybe Wayne's votes are just rather elusive and no one's counting them right, or suspisions are abound. Though, maybe it is just forgetting to put 'Vote' in the title, which some of us newcomers to the game did yesterday at first. If so, then remember to put 'Vote' in this time. If this wasn't the reason I have no choice, but to hold some suspision.

~ Ka

sotty · 10-21-2005, 09:17 PM

That was something I forgot to ask, Wayne please talk more! We have no idea who you suspect or what you think, all inputs are needed I feel so don't be afraid to chip with more than one or two lines a post.

tar-ancalime · 10-21-2005, 11:52 PM

Forgot to add in my last post:

THE Ka's relatively early vote for Rune yesterDAY makes me think now that she (he?) is innocent. At the time of the vote, the only other votes were for THE Ka and Rune. If both THE Ka and Rune were wolves, why not try to throw suspicions elsewhere, instead of adding to the troubles of a fellow wolf so early?

Sleepy Ranger · 10-22-2005, 05:49 AM

Hmm yea THE Ka's early vote does make her look innocent but she might have thought that its still early so it could still go either way and if it did she could change her vote but after seeing how the situation ended up she decided to stick with her vote. Of course this theory is highly unlikely so I believe that THE Ka is innocent.

At the moment I find Wayne to be highly suspicious and heres something Sotty posted.

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Wayne voted at 7.46pm
DEATH voted at 7.49pm
Rune voted at 7.49pm

Now it could have been that they all just cross-posted but it could also have been that they were wolves and had decided a common time to vote so it would look like they just cross-posted. Now seeing how Death is dead and innocent and Rune is dead and a wolf. Also both Rune AND Wayne voted for the same person, perhaps Wayne messed up his vote by mistake and they had planned on band-waggoning. Now I know this theory has a lot of holes but it caught my eye and Wayne does seem to be upto something.

Also I request the seer to drop some hints if possible.
And Holbytlass are you still sticking to your band-waggoning theory or did you just vote for no reason?

WaynetheGoblin · 10-22-2005, 06:19 AM

Well I see someone wants me to post more. My suspcions are on one person bergil. He voted for me when he knew that rune was going to die. I think he tried to protect rune. I didnt vote for rune because when I wanted to the voting was closed. I would have voted for him.

10-21-2005, 09:00 PM	#2
tar-ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: abaft the beam Posts: 303	yesterDAY's votes YesterDAY's voting, in order: tar-ancalime: THE Ka (THE Ka, 1) Kitanna: Rune (THE Ka, 1; Rune, 1) THE Ka: Rune (Rune, 2; THE Ka, 1) Sleepy Ranger: Rune (Rune, 3; THE Ka, 1) Wilwarin: Rune (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1) Bergil: Wayne (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1) Hiriel: tar-ancalime (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1) sotty: Hiriel (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1) Holbytlass: Sleepy Ranger (Rune, 4; THE Ka, 1; Wayne, 1; tar-ancalime, 1; Hiriel, 1; Sleepy Ranger, 1) Eonwe: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 1; five others, 1 each) Rune: Kitanna (Rune, 4; Kitanna, 2; five others, 1 each) (I didn't find a "vote" post from WaynetheGoblin--did I miss it? If so I apologize.) Some thoughts, based solely on the voting: An easy conclusion to jump to is that Eonwe is also a wolf; however, voting late for Kitanna, only to maul her that NIGHT, seems awfully bold to me. Eonwe is either an uncommonly bold wolf, or a convenient patsy. Perhaps unfortunately for us innocents, Rune's fate was sealed (or nearly so) relatively early in the DAY. That gave the other two wolves plenty of time and opportunity to vote for others without establishing a particular pattern. Let's look at the votes of the post-Rune voting crowd: Bergil votes for Wayne, citing suspicions of Wayne's non-vote on DAY 1. (Posts 109 and 112) Hiriel votes for tar-ancalime, citing suspicions of tar-ancalime's vote for THE Ka, as well as lingering doubts from DAY 1 (Post 114) sotty votes for Hiriel, citing a gut feeling, as well as doubts based on Hiriel's missing the vote on DAY 1. (post 115) Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think this brings us to one vote each for those who didn't vote on DAY 1. (My vote, while pre-Rune for scheduling reasons, falls into this category as well. I needed to choose someone who missed the vote on DAY one, based on my theory that one of those was a wolf. I had no real compelling reason to choose THE Ka instead of Hiriel, as I stated in my post.) Holbytlass votes for Sleepy Ranger, without giving a reason (Post 117) Eonwe votes for Kitanna, because of Kitanna's suspicion of Rune (Post 118) Rune votes for Kitanna for obvious reasons. What does this tell us? Again, that Eonwe is either a bold wolf or an unfortunate innocent. That other than Rune, we as a village had no strong inclinations yesterDAY. That Wayne (again, correct me if I'm wrong) is the only villager to have no votes count at all for DAYS 1 and 2. I'm at a loss. __________________ Having fun wolfing it to the bitter end, I see, gaur-ancalime (lmp, ww13)

10-21-2005, 11:52 PM	#5
tar-ancalime Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: abaft the beam Posts: 303	Forgot to add in my last post: THE Ka's relatively early vote for Rune yesterDAY makes me think now that she (he?) is innocent. At the time of the vote, the only other votes were for THE Ka and Rune. If both THE Ka and Rune were wolves, why not try to throw suspicions elsewhere, instead of adding to the troubles of a fellow wolf so early? __________________ Having fun wolfing it to the bitter end, I see, gaur-ancalime (lmp, ww13)

10-22-2005, 06:19 AM	#7
WaynetheGoblin Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: far far away Posts: 275	Well I see someone wants me to post more. My suspcions are on one person bergil. He voted for me when he knew that rune was going to die. I think he tried to protect rune. I didnt vote for rune because when I wanted to the voting was closed. I would have voted for him. __________________ if your happy im happy if your sad im sad if you jump of a cliff i watch

10-21-2005, 09:17 PM	#4
sotty Pile O'Bones Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 21	That was something I forgot to ask, Wayne please talk more! We have no idea who you suspect or what you think, all inputs are needed I feel so don't be afraid to chip with more than one or two lines a post.