** General Comments on the Project & Sign Up Thread **

[Aiwendil]

Change in Password Policy

Since it seems that a lot of new members join and then disappear pretty quickly, and since all of the important discussion takes place in the public forum, we've decided to alter the policy regarding giving out the password to the private forum.

Previously, anyone who expressed interest in the project was given the password. The new policy is that a member must become active in the project here on the public forum before being given access to the private forum.

Please note that this change amounts to very little. The private forum is as a rule only used for the posting of completed texts. All important discussion takes place here.

[lindil]

The above emmendation has been inserted into the intro to the forum/FAQ thread.

I am just wondering, but in which thread is the live discussion takeing place in this project currently?

[Aiwendil]

The following threads may be considered "live" for FoG: Fall of Gondolin Part 3 Structure, Mechanical Monsters at the Fall of Gondolin, and Rog: Canonical Elvish or No?.

Also, the beginnings of the Ruin of Doriath project: Ruin of Doriath.

Those are the threads in which there has been recent discussion. But that certainly doesn't mean they're the only relevant threads or the only threads you're allowed to post in.

[Saraphim]

I have studied the Silmarillion, Lost Tales, and The Lays of Belariand extensivly, and I was hoping that there might be a place for me on this intruiging project.

I have read of the topics, and greatly wish to be apart of it.

Thank you for considering me!

[watson107]

Hello,

The amount of work that has been put into this project is nothing short of amazing! I am a huge fan of Tolkien, and was inspired to search the very daunting WWW forest for anyone who had taken it upon themselves to reconstruct The Silmarillion in way that was closer to what JRRT would have wanted. As someone who is pursuing a career in literature studies, I have always been fascinated by Tolkien's thoroughness. While The Silmarillion is a fascinating read, I was disappointed by the gaps left in ME's mythology by rushed editing and hindered access to JRR's unpublished pieces. I applaud your group for its dedication to such a task!

That being said, if you ever need a helping hand, I would be more than willing to assist. For credentials (which seem to pale in comparison to some of the board members), I have studied The Silmarillion, Lost Tales, earlier volumes int he HoMe series, The Children of Hurin, The Hobbit, and LoTR.


watson107

[Eruhen]

OK, so I'm back on the Downs after an (extremely) extended hiatus. Where does TtfE stand and what still needs doing?

I seem to have misplaced most of my HoME books in my many moves, so all I've got left are the canon and UT. I'll help where I can, though.

[Findegil]

I took very long time for an answer were we stand. My Appologies for that. But that is the way it has gone.

The last discussions were held in the chapter The Ruin of Beleriand. I gave posting of state of afairs in that thread. Here I only will say that we finished the first (unnamed) sub-chapter and nearly finished The death of Fingofin. The other two (short) sub-chapters are drafts untouched by the group.

Beside that we have (at least) two open points in the General Changes thread:
Bauglir -> Baugron
and
Gwarestrin -> Gwarestirin

For the rest of the work I update my resumee from post 100:

The Fall of Gondolin (FoG): Done.

The Darkening of Valinor (DoV): Done. But needs another look into it.

Ainulindalë (AINU): Done.

Valaquenta (Vala): Done.

Of the Voyage of Eärendil & Of the Great Battle and the War of Wrath (VE): Done.

Of the Ruin of Doriath (RD): Done.

Narn i Chîn Húrin (Narn; NA): Done. With the single exception of the snippets of the Lay that I would wish for and that have been once voted down, but are still on my mind as worthy additions.

Narn Beren ion Barahir or Narn e•Dinúviel (BL): Done.

For the Silmarillion chapters up to „11 Of the flight of the Noldor“ I have drafts ready for posting. But I will not undertake the work to bring it in postable form before the discussion has reached that point. As a matter of fact Aiwendil had suggested to start from the Ainulindalë and go to all the texts we hav done sofare before starting any new material.

Respectfuly
Findegil

[blue]

Hi, I'd like to help, but I'm a bit overwhelmed with reading through the threads here.

Has someone put together (other than the FAQ thread) an index of pertinent threads to read to get up to speed?

I'm afraid I'm drowning!

A quick initial thought - from Tolkien's letter 131, he did state his desire to see the Silmarillion published with LotR and, to me, that would seem to be (along with the previously published Hobbit) the core set of canonical works.

Thanks and looking forward to assisting!

[Arvegil145]

Hello everyone!

I have been following this project for some time, and I am also doing my own private revision of The Silmarillion. As it turned out, I have already made a profile on this site years ago, and found, while trying to register, that my email was already in use.

Anyway, I'm quite excited to contribute as I may to the project, if you wouldn't mind another nuisance on the board.

[Findegil]

Welcome Arvegil145,

will allway love nuisance on the board other wise we would not try to keep this project alive.

As the project has long been in stasis it is not easy to advise were to start, so for the time beenig I can only say feel free to comment were ever you see a reason for it.

Respectfuly
Findegil

[Aiwendil]

Welcome to the project.

Once you've read over the active threads and feel ready to contribute, please jump right in. The important threads right now are the "Fall of Gondolin part 3 structure", "Revised Fall of Gondolin part 4", and "The Problem of Rog" threads.

[Maédhros]

Saraphim, if you are serious in contributing to the proyect, I can provide you with the texts we are currently working on regarding the Fall of Gondolin. One can contribute to the threads without them but in my opinion, it is easier if one has the base text of the discussions. Let me know if you or someone else who may contribute to the project would like to have them.

[Eorl of Rohan]

This is a very interesting project, and I want to participate in it.

I am an avid and very fast reader, and read Silmarillion and Unfinished tales more then ten times, though I have not kept count.

Can I join?

[Aiwendil]

You may certainly join.

The first thing to do is to read the important threads on the forum.

As you may know, we are in the final stages of updating the old version of "The Fall of Gondolin" found in HoMe II to fit with the later Legendarium. This project began with the old Fall of Gondolin thread; it's not necessary that you read it, but if you wish to see the beginnings of this particular phase of the project, it's worth looking at.

The current discussion regarding the Fall of Gondolin is taking place in these threads: Revised Fall of Gondolin part 2 [the transition], Revised Fall of Gondolin part 5, and Proposed FoG Agenda.

That these are the currently active threads does not mean that they are the only place you're allowed to post, however. If you have any relevant comments on more general issues from other threads, feel free to post them.

[Petty Dwarf]

Well, I'm back.

Due to circumstances far beyond my control (ranging from a move from Queens to Brooklyn, transitions in and out of a job or two, to death) I've been sadly unable to post around here, just when I was starting to feel the project.

Thanks to things calming down I've been back a few times and have caught up with the feel of the current work. I'm happy to once again lend whatever assistance I can. I am extremely intrigued with the current Fall of Doriath revisions.

[Maédhros]

Welcome back.
If you have read some of the other threads posted by Aiwendil in his last post, we have decided that we would continue with the Of Eärendil and the War of Wrath chapter, instead of going back and working with the Ruin of Doriath.

I believe that as soon as Antoine posts our current draft of the Fall of Gondolin we will begin our work with the Eärendil chapter. It is to be noted that while we were working on the Fall of Gondolin, several facets of the Eärendil chapter have been discussed, such as: using the Lay of Eärendel as the beginning of the chapter, etc.

I believe that the King's writer Findegil is going to make a rough draft regarding the Eärendil chapter as a base for us to work on that part.

[Aiwendil]

Welcome back, Petty Dwarf. I'm sorry to hear about all the craziness in your real life lately.

We're moving on next to the Voyage of Earendil, which we will be starting as soon as the final draft of the Fall of Gondolin is done.

A few general discussions are going on now in Format/Notation Issues and What's Next?. Your comments on these issues would be most appreciated.

[Leyrana Silumiel]

Ah, the Ainulindale. Finally, something I'm a little more knowledgeable about (let's face it, I'm not much of an expert on the Fall of Gondolin, which would explain my rather vague participation on that part). So you can officially count me in now, Aiwendil. I'll get busy reading what's said now. ^_^

[Aiwendil]

I look forward to hearing what you have to say about the Ainulindale. Actually, I think that our revisions to it were very nearly complete, with only perhaps one or two small issues left to resolve. But please, if you have any comments on either the revisions we have made, the issues left unresolved, or anything else relating to the Ainulindale, don't hesitate to give voice to them.

Hello, everyone. I've been following this project for the last week or so, slowly trying to climb the learning curve before I posted anything too stupid.

I'm very excited by the project. Although I first heard about it at lotrplaza, I've been looking for just such a project to get involved in for a long time. I've read the Sil half a dozen times now, read the UT twice, and also owned and read all of HOME and Letters. (Admittedly, I do tend to skip over a lot CT's editorial comments when I go through HOME....)

I'm especially interested in doing something with Chapters 7-9 (Although, from the Outline it looks like you have the DoV finished already? I'd love to be able to comment on it if so) In the meantime, I suppose I'll be trying to make my presence felt in the Valaquenta/Ainulindale threads.

Well, I just wanted to say "hello", in hopes of getting my own ball rolling here.

[Findegil]

Welcome to the project Raumhir. Do not fear that anythink in DoV is fixed already. The thinks nearly done as jet are very limited: FoG I would count as such and Ainulindale and Valaquenta. But the two later are still under discusssion. And what ever you feel to need be discussed again (after reading the older discusssion) you should bring up (mostly it would be best placed in a new thread - which by the way anybody is fit to creat).

Respectfully
Findegil

[Aiwendil]

Welcome, Raumohir!

Findegil is quite correct about DoV - I imagine we'll eventually be starting the whole thing over from scratch.

I look forward to reading your comments and suggestions regarding the Ainulindale and Valaquenta. Also, as Findegil said, feel free to bring up any topics you have something to say on, or to revive any old threads.

[Fingolfin II]

Hey guys,

This is a great project and I'm very keen to make form of comments and suggestions in various parts of this project. I've read some of the HoME serious, as well as the Silmarillion several times and UT. I hope that's enough.

Cheers,

Fingolfin.