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I know, I sound stupid for asking this, but it`s driving me crazy.
In the Fellowship of the Ring (movie) Saruman says to Gandalf: Quote:
![]() (By the way, I know this sounds like it should probably be in Middle-earth Mirth, but I`m being serious.) ![]() Merry posting to all, and to all a Pippin night!!! ![]()
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Wight
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Michigan
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I'm pretty sure he was talking about pipe weed. I don't think pipe weed could actually "slow your mind", it was just Saruman's way of saying that Gandalf spends too much time with the Hobbits, and that the stupidity of the Hobbits is "rubbing off on him" so to speak.
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Auspicious Wraith
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Saruman was also mocking Gandalf for using the leaf. Even though he did not consider the leaf to be bad for Gandalf (he was far more likely to be referring to Neithan's suggestion), he was simply taking another opportunity to criticise Gandalf for his peculiarities.
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Make like a tree and leaf!
Pipeweed comes from a plant. Saruman, being the ever wise that he is, was no doubt trying to impress Gandalf with his botanalgous knowledge. That, at least, is my opinion.
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Join Date: Feb 2003
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Certainly Gandalf had a well-known love for pipeweed; however, the irony in this is that Saruman also loves the pipeweed, but he loves it in secret and imports it from the Shire in great quantities, as moviegoers will see in the TTT Extended version when Merry and Pippin find a store of it at Isengard after the Drowning of the place. The harmless vice that Gandalf practices in the open is imitated in a secretive way by the very wizard wot makes fun of him for it! What amusing duplicity and hypocrisy! Saruman spent all his time imitating Gandalf and then ridiculing Gandalf's practices. It sounds like he had a real complex, that one!
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Two passages out of UT may be found of interest here:
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