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Tarien Ithil · 08-09-2003, 12:41 PM

Combe, because it was nearest to teh South Downs?

Clearly, I am just guessing!

Mariska Greenleaf · 08-09-2003, 01:11 PM

Combe is the only one that took its name from its location?
Combe lay in a deep valley, and "combe" was an old word for valley.

Tarien Ithil · 08-12-2003, 11:25 AM

Quote:

There was Staddle on the other side of the hill, Combe in a deep valley a little further eastward, and Archet on the edge of Chetwood.

I've been pouring over this but with no success. Please, another clue?

Lindolirian · 08-12-2003, 10:17 PM

Ah! I'm sorry I've been gone for so long. Meneltarmacil had it on August 2 with the fact that Archet was merely the only one in a forest. Sorry for all of you who kept working so hard on it.

Tarien Ithil · 08-13-2003, 11:56 AM

Phew! Such a simple answer! And Mariska and I were babbling on about other differences! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

[ August 13, 2003: Message edited by: Tarien Ithil ]

Meneltarmacil · 08-27-2003, 11:26 AM

Nevrast
Mithrim
Gorgoroth
Nurn

These places really do not have much in common, but if you look at what three of them have in common, then it'll be really obvious why the fourth doesn't fit.

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-28-2003, 04:37 PM

I'll say Gorgoroth, as it is the only region that does not contain a body of water (Linaewen in Nevrast, Lake Mithrim in Mithrim and the Sea of Nurnen in Nurn).

Meneltarmacil · 08-28-2003, 08:45 PM

Absolutely right! You got that one really easily. Apparently, I am not that great at coming up with hard questions [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]... Go ahead, Saucepan Man!

[ August 28, 2003: Message edited by: Meneltarmacil ]

**The Saucepan Man** · 08-31-2003, 06:01 AM

Bag End
Cirith Ungol
Orodruin
Rivendell

One of these things is not like the others,
One of these things just doesn't belong ... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 08-31-2003, 04:10 PM

No river flows near Orodruin. Except its own rivers of lava, of course. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-01-2003, 10:43 AM

Nope. That's not the answer that I'm looking for.

Elentári · 09-01-2003, 12:30 PM

Does that mean it isn't Orodruin, or just that the reason was wrong? I was thinking Orodruin, because it is the only one that is a place, not a home of some sort- all the others are lived in, that one is a volcano!

Lindolirian · 09-01-2003, 08:06 PM

I just have this hunch about Orodruin and it might be that it's the only place that Bilbo's mithril coat did not go to. Maybe, maybe not...

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-02-2003, 07:19 AM

Nope, neither of those is what I'm looking for. And Orodruin may be the odd one out ...

... but then again it may not be. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

By way of a hint, I have added another location:

Anduin River
Bag End
Cirith Ungol
Orodruin
Rivendell

[ September 02, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ]

Gil-Galad · 09-02-2003, 08:03 AM

Cirith Ungol because there wasn't very any major battle around there

Bag end- the uprising aganest Sharkey
Orodruin- siege of Barad-Dur/ desturcution of the ring
Anduin- taking of Osgiliath
Rivnedell- aganest Angmar

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-02-2003, 05:20 PM

Sorry, that's not it either.

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-04-2003, 05:00 PM

Another hint, another location ...

Anduin River
Bag End
Cirith Ungol
Goblin Tunnels
Orodruin
Rivendell

That should help. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Lindolirian · 09-04-2003, 05:48 PM

No one was hurt while aruging over the Ring in Rivendell.

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-06-2003, 08:14 AM

You have the location, Lindol, but not the explanation, although you are very close indeed.

A little more detail may assist:

Anduin River - near Gladden Fields
Bag End
Cirith Ungol - just outside Shelob's lair and in the top chamber of the Tower
Goblin Tunnels
Orodruin - on the slopes and at Sammath Naur
Rivendell

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-08-2003, 06:10 PM

Final hint:

Surely someone must get this now? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img]

Evisse the Blue · 09-08-2003, 07:30 PM

Rivendell is the OPO because...ummm...the Ring didn't change masters here. In all the other places it passed from someone to another.

**The Saucepan Man** · 09-09-2003, 11:32 AM

At last! You are correct, Evisse. They are all locations where the identity of the Ringbearer changed, with the exception of Rivendell. Well done. The thread is yours. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Evisse the Blue · 09-09-2003, 03:38 PM

Oh. Thanks, Saucy. Oy - I'm really really weak at geography and places and such and ME is no exception, but - here's my humble attempt at a riddle:
Nan Elmoth
Neldoreth
Rohan
Gondor
Caras Galadhon

alquadae · 09-18-2003, 07:31 PM

Rohan is mostly grassland while the others are wooded?

Evisse the Blue · 09-21-2003, 04:52 AM

Nope. Think of something that has to do with people.

Meneltarmacil · 09-22-2003, 06:15 PM

Rohan because it was never inhabited by elves?

And yes, Gondor WAS inhabited by elves in the past. (think Edhellond)

Evisse the Blue · 09-23-2003, 11:58 AM

No. I mean, right OPO, wrong reason.

Telchar · 09-24-2003, 02:44 AM

Quote:

Nope. Think of something that has to do with people.

This one is difficult - which is good [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] - but just to make perfectly sure Evisse the Blue, do you mean people, as is 'a people' or (specific) persons ???

Evisse the Blue · 09-24-2003, 03:47 AM

I mean specific persons - good question, Telchar, cause this makes for a good hint!

Tarien Ithil · 09-28-2003, 01:15 PM

Rohan, because the Teleri people did not settle there.

I’m probably wrong…………(I think it’s also got something to do with Beleriand and Elwe Singollo)

Evisse the Blue · 09-28-2003, 01:38 PM

Yeah, you're wrong, because it's not about people as a whole race but about individuals.
Elwe Singollo does indeed have something to do with it. And this is a big hint.

Telchar · 09-30-2003, 07:59 AM

I AM <-----soooo-----> LOST

Niluial · 09-30-2003, 03:28 PM

I have been trying to figure this out for the past hour I even turned to google (eek)… but nothing. Any other clues or is that all you giving us?

Niluial

Evisse the Blue · 10-01-2003, 06:36 AM

Lol, that's so fun, because it's actually staring you in the face. You guys are probably looking so hard that you fail to see the obvious. Think about the individuals for whom those places meant ... something. Rememebr that Rohan is the OPO.
And I could give a more specific location for Gondor: Minas Tirith.

Telchar · 10-01-2003, 07:20 AM

I feel so 'one track minded...'

The only thing I can come yo with is that no kinsman of Thingol ever lived in Rohan...

Meneltarmacil · 10-01-2003, 08:23 PM

Does it have anything to do with people(all related to Thingol, naturally)falling in love/getting married/etc.? Thingol and Melian in Nan Elmoth, Beren and Luthien in Neldoreth, Aragorn and Arwen in Minas Tirith, and let's see...Nobody in Rohan.
*thinks a bit*
Wait a second! Aragorn and Arwen didn't meet and fall in love in Minas Tirith! Now my answer is useless!

*yells and screams and bangs head against wall*

I'm about to take a cue from Denethor and torch myself if this isn't solved soon...

Come on, what is it? We're all stumped.

[ October 01, 2003: Message edited by: Meneltarmacil ]

Evisse the Blue · 10-04-2003, 06:50 AM

Meneltarmacil, you got it! Yeeeeah!
::jumps up and down throwing confetti above stumped barrowdowners::
Even if you got the Minas Tirith one wrong, as you yourself admited. It was Eowyn and Faramir who fell in love in Minas Tirith. You got the reason right, so it's your turn.

Meneltarmacil · 10-04-2003, 09:49 AM

Minas Tirith
Isengard
Osgiliath
Amon Hen

[ October 04, 2003: Message edited by: Meneltarmacil ]

Telchar · 10-04-2003, 11:23 AM

The easy answer would be - there was never a palantiri on Amon Hen... but that probably too simple?

Meneltarmacil · 10-04-2003, 11:36 AM

Good guess, but sorry, that wasn't what I was thinking. Guess again.

08-09-2003, 12:41 PM	#1
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	Combe, because it was nearest to teh South Downs? Clearly, I am just guessing! __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

08-09-2003, 01:11 PM	#2
Mariska Greenleaf Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Dublin Posts: 1,036	Combe is the only one that took its name from its location? Combe lay in a deep valley, and "combe" was an old word for valley. __________________ I hear and I forget. I see and I remember. I do and I understand.- Confucius.

08-12-2003, 10:17 PM	#4
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	Ah! I'm sorry I've been gone for so long. Meneltarmacil had it on August 2 with the fact that Archet was merely the only one in a forest. Sorry for all of you who kept working so hard on it. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

08-13-2003, 11:56 AM	#5
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	Phew! Such a simple answer! And Mariska and I were babbling on about other differences! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] [ August 13, 2003: Message edited by: Tarien Ithil ] __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

08-27-2003, 11:26 AM	#6
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	Nevrast Mithrim Gorgoroth Nurn These places really do not have much in common, but if you look at what three of them have in common, then it'll be really obvious why the fourth doesn't fit. __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

08-28-2003, 04:37 PM	#7
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	I'll say Gorgoroth, as it is the only region that does not contain a body of water (Linaewen in Nevrast, Lake Mithrim in Mithrim and the Sea of Nurnen in Nurn). __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-28-2003, 08:45 PM	#8
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	Absolutely right! You got that one really easily. Apparently, I am not that great at coming up with hard questions [img]smilies/frown.gif[/img]... Go ahead, Saucepan Man! [ August 28, 2003: Message edited by: Meneltarmacil ] __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

08-31-2003, 06:01 AM	#9
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Bag End Cirith Ungol Orodruin Rivendell One of these things is not like the others, One of these things just doesn't belong ... [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

08-31-2003, 04:10 PM	#10
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	No river flows near Orodruin. Except its own rivers of lava, of course. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

09-01-2003, 10:43 AM	#11
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nope. That's not the answer that I'm looking for. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-01-2003, 12:30 PM	#12
Elentári Wight Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Up a tree somewhere in Caras Galadhon... Posts: 113	Does that mean it isn't Orodruin, or just that the reason was wrong? I was thinking Orodruin, because it is the only one that is a place, not a home of some sort- all the others are lived in, that one is a volcano! __________________ Dotard! What is the house of Eorl but a thatched barn where brigands drink in the reek, and their brats roll on the floor among the dogs? Spread the word! The 1st annual Golden Ring Marathon! October 20th 2005! Tell Everyone! Frodo Lives!

09-01-2003, 08:06 PM	#13
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	I just have this hunch about Orodruin and it might be that it's the only place that Bilbo's mithril coat did not go to. Maybe, maybe not... __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

09-02-2003, 07:19 AM	#14
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Nope, neither of those is what I'm looking for. And Orodruin may be the odd one out ... ... but then again it may not be. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] By way of a hint, I have added another location: Anduin River Bag End Cirith Ungol Orodruin Rivendell [ September 02, 2003: Message edited by: The Saucepan Man ] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-02-2003, 08:03 AM	#15
Gil-Galad Psyche of Prince Immortal Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Above a Parapet Obvious exits are: North, South, and Dennis Posts: 4,734	Cirith Ungol because there wasn't very any major battle around there Bag end- the uprising aganest Sharkey Orodruin- siege of Barad-Dur/ desturcution of the ring Anduin- taking of Osgiliath Rivnedell- aganest Angmar __________________ Love doesn't blow up and get killed.

09-02-2003, 05:20 PM	#16
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Sorry, that's not it either. __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-04-2003, 05:00 PM	#17
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Another hint, another location ... Anduin River Bag End Cirith Ungol Goblin Tunnels Orodruin Rivendell That should help. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-04-2003, 05:48 PM	#18
Lindolirian World's Tallest Hobbit Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Where the view is long Posts: 2,117	No one was hurt while aruging over the Ring in Rivendell. __________________ 'They say that the One will himself enter into Arda, and heal Men and all the Marring from the beginning to the end."

09-06-2003, 08:14 AM	#19
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	You have the location, Lindol, but not the explanation, although you are very close indeed. A little more detail may assist: Anduin River - near Gladden Fields Bag End Cirith Ungol - just outside Shelob's lair and in the top chamber of the Tower Goblin Tunnels Orodruin - on the slopes and at Sammath Naur Rivendell __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-08-2003, 06:10 PM	#20
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	Final hint: Surely someone must get this now? [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-08-2003, 07:30 PM	#21
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Rivendell is the OPO because...ummm...the Ring didn't change masters here. In all the other places it passed from someone to another. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-09-2003, 11:32 AM	#22
The Saucepan Man Corpus Cacophonous Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: A green and pleasant land Posts: 8,390	At last! You are correct, Evisse. They are all locations where the identity of the Ringbearer changed, with the exception of Rivendell. Well done. The thread is yours. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] __________________ Do you mind? I'm busy doing the fishstick. It's a very delicate state of mind!

09-09-2003, 03:38 PM	#23
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Oh. Thanks, Saucy. Oy - I'm really really weak at geography and places and such and ME is no exception, but - here's my humble attempt at a riddle: Nan Elmoth Neldoreth Rohan Gondor Caras Galadhon __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-18-2003, 07:31 PM	#24
alquadae Wight Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Mithlond Posts: 154	Rohan is mostly grassland while the others are wooded? __________________ Keeper of St. Elmos Fire

09-21-2003, 04:52 AM	#25
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Nope. Think of something that has to do with people. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-22-2003, 06:15 PM	#26
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	Rohan because it was never inhabited by elves? And yes, Gondor WAS inhabited by elves in the past. (think Edhellond) __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

09-23-2003, 11:58 AM	#27
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	No. I mean, right OPO, wrong reason. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-24-2003, 03:47 AM	#29
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	I mean specific persons - good question, Telchar, cause this makes for a good hint! __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-28-2003, 01:15 PM	#30
Tarien Ithil Shade of Carn Dûm Join Date: May 2003 Location: In the Shade of a Tree Posts: 253	Rohan, because the Teleri people did not settle there. I’m probably wrong…………(I think it’s also got something to do with Beleriand and Elwe Singollo) __________________ “The English-speaking world is divided into those who have read The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit and those who are going to read them.” – Sunday Times Crickhollow

09-28-2003, 01:38 PM	#31
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Yeah, you're wrong, because it's not about people as a whole race but about individuals. Elwe Singollo does indeed have something to do with it. And this is a big hint. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

09-30-2003, 07:59 AM	#32
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	I AM <-----soooo-----> LOST __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

09-30-2003, 03:28 PM	#33
Niluial Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: In the darkness of white Posts: 601	I have been trying to figure this out for the past hour I even turned to google (eek)… but nothing. Any other clues or is that all you giving us? Niluial __________________ Life is not about how many breaths you take but about how many times it leaves you breathless. My rants, moans and groans in other words my Blog My Magical Site

10-01-2003, 06:36 AM	#34
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Lol, that's so fun, because it's actually staring you in the face. You guys are probably looking so hard that you fail to see the obvious. Think about the individuals for whom those places meant ... something. Rememebr that Rohan is the OPO. And I could give a more specific location for Gondor: Minas Tirith. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.

10-01-2003, 07:20 AM	#35
Telchar Stonehearted Dwarf Smith Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Copenhagen, Denmark Posts: 2,247	I feel so 'one track minded...' The only thing I can come yo with is that no kinsman of Thingol ever lived in Rohan... __________________ Anar Kaluva Tielyanna.

10-01-2003, 08:23 PM	#36
Meneltarmacil Ghost Prince of Cardolan Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The bottom of the ocean, discussing philosophy with a giant squid Posts: 2,254	Does it have anything to do with people(all related to Thingol, naturally)falling in love/getting married/etc.? Thingol and Melian in Nan Elmoth, Beren and Luthien in Neldoreth, Aragorn and Arwen in Minas Tirith, and let's see...Nobody in Rohan. thinks a bit Wait a second! Aragorn and Arwen didn't meet and fall in love in Minas Tirith! Now my answer is useless! yells and screams and bangs head against wall I'm about to take a cue from Denethor and torch myself if this isn't solved soon... Come on, what is it? We're all stumped. [ October 01, 2003: Message edited by: Meneltarmacil ] __________________ I ♣ baby seals.

10-04-2003, 06:50 AM	#37
Evisse the Blue Brightness of a Blade Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: wherever I may roam Posts: 2,685	Meneltarmacil, you got it! Yeeeeah! ::jumps up and down throwing confetti above stumped barrowdowners:: Even if you got the Minas Tirith one wrong, as you yourself admited. It was Eowyn and Faramir who fell in love in Minas Tirith. You got the reason right, so it's your turn. __________________ And no one was ill, and everyone was pleased, except those who had to mow the grass.