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Hello Huinesoron
I quite understand how your personal experience of the Downs in actual English counties left a deep impact. Deep enough that it ought to have had a memorable effect on Tolkien too. So, I agree, it would not be at all surprising if his personal vision for the novel’s localized countryside followed suit. Nevertheless, now that we have an inkling that one particular hill of our tale has a decent connection to Ireland’s Tara - it’s worthwhile contemplating whether other links can be uncovered. But firstly, from my previous post - I much prefer to explore links to ‘fairies’ of the ‘fairy mound’. One idea I get from TLotR text is an underlying picture of little legendary creatures beneath a mushroom: “The fog rolled up to the walls and rose above them, and as it mounted it bent over their heads until it became a roof: they were shut in a hall of mist whose central pillar was the standing stone.” – The Fellowship of the Ring, Fog on the Barrow-downs ![]() The Intruder, John Anster Fitzgerald, 1860 Do any other readers get the same kind of notion come to their minds? And then does Tom and Goldberry’s cavorting around the dining table leave an impression of fairies dancing in a circular fashion? “… in some fashion they seemed to weave a single dance, neither hindering the other, in and out of the room, and round about the table; …”. - The Fellowship of the Ring, In the House of Tom Bombadil In combination, is that the sort of impression Tolkien wanted to leave? Was his tale meant to be the origin of our world’s superstitions about ‘fairy rings’ and connected folklore to mushrooms? ![]() A Mushroom Ring - A Natural Phenomenon Pondering deeper on fairy connections, we also have the Sir Gawain and the Green Knight tale - where Lord Bertilak (and presumably his wife) are: “… fay-magic folk …”, – ‘Sir Gawain and the Green Knight’, W.P. Ker Lecture Paper Central to that fairy-story is the hollow hill of the Green Chapel and the lady’s ownership of a ‘green girdle’. It is a magical item which will protect its possessor from any deadly or injurious blow: “For whoever goes girdled with this green riband, while he keeps it well clasped closely about him, there is none so hardy under heaven that to hew him were able; for he could not be killed by any cunning of hand.” – ‘Sir Gawain and the Green Knight’, W.P. Ker Lecture Paper, 1953 Beyond coincidence is Tom’s remarkable possession of one too! “green were his girdle and his breeches all of leather;”. – The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, 1962 release Hmm … was Tom practically invincible in battle? Is that why he came across as so cock-sure? So then, was Tom the original owner of the green girdle and thus conceived as a ‘fay’ creature? Is that a reasonable possibility? Back in 1934 at his first public release in The Adventures of Tom Bombadil, he certainly exhibited powers beyond that of mortals or elven-kind! I really do not want this thread to descend into a discussion about Bombadil, but a ‘supernatural’ Tom certainly has knowledge about the standing stone and its perilous nature: “ ‘Don’t you go a-meddling with old stone …’ “. -The Fellowship of the Ring, In the House of Tom Bombadil Nevertheless, in the next couple of posts, I will try to outline additional evidence pointing to Tom being of the fay race himself. I will try to be as succinct as possible. However I think a little discussion of such sorts is needed, if readers are to align themselves with perhaps a new/different line of thinking. For beneficially to us - there exist several clues that Tom is connected to Tara of legend. This may help us in the road to understanding why Tolkien included the standing stone. Because, it seems to me that textually much unrealized substructure exists behind this segment of the tale - knowledge of which will help fill a void, and make the Barrow-downs episode all the more satisfying. Last edited by Priya; 09-19-2025 at 04:14 PM. |
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As I intimated in my previous post, in order to reconcile Tolkien’s hollowed-out and mounded hill with our world’s fairy-lore we need a bit more evidence. Tom Bombadil is obviously intricately involved. Or at least - knowledgeable.
But was Tom conceived as a creature of Faërie as I have suggested? To examine that angle, in depth, would take many lengthy posts - and I would love to chat more about that. Unfortunately such side-tracking isn’t desirable for this particular thread. So instead, I’m just going to summarize some of what I’ve gathered over the years in studying Tolkien’s marvelous creation. Don’t fall over - but one prognosis is that Tolkien employed his ‘usual’ trick of making his tale a ‘source’, and gave Tom a purpose through making him the origin of many characters of our world’s fairy-stories, myths and legends. But to do so - he had to do it in a fragmentary way. Only bits and pieces of his tale could be tied up with our world’s accounts. At least - that is what I believe was his plan. However, I caution - I’m just grazing the surface here. Tom is an extremely complex character; indeed an extraordinary piece of subcreation. By no means is this all there is to him, or the final say. And you are all welcome to discuss and argue with me - but please, if you don’t mind, in a different thread. Fairytale Tom appears in the role of the old ‘fairy-man’ in: (a) Jack and the Beanstalk Who was that odd-looking old man whom Jack had traded with? “He hadn't gone far when he met a funny-looking old man, who said to him: 'Good morning, Jack.' ” - English Fairy Tales, Jack and the Beanstalk - pg. 60, J. Jacobs, 1890 Surely only a fairy being would have been in possession of magic beans? ![]() The Queer Old Man, 'Jack and the Beanstalk', English Fairy Tales, F. Steel, 1890 (Illustration by Arthur Rackham) One of the earliest printed illustrations of the famous tale records a bearded short man with a conspicuous hat and a blue jacket. Might he have been Tom? ![]() Illustrations from 'The History of Mother Twaddle and the Marvellous Achievements of Her Son Jack', Benjamin Tabart, 1807 Then after the swap what happened to Jack's cow: 'Milky-White'? Hmm ... for our tale clearly Tom had access to a providing farm animal. After all, the extent of dairy produce on the dinner table was substantial: “... yellow cream and honeycomb, and white bread and butter; milk, cheese, ...”. – The Fellowship of the Ring, In the House of Tom Bombadil So we can see that there was no shortage of food during the hobbits' respite. With much of it being milk based, we might ascertain Tom's cow was a prodigious producer. Resonating with: “... Milky-white, the best milker in the parish, ...”. - English Fairy Tales, Jack and the Beanstalk - pg. 61, J. Jacobs, 1890 And one can readily imagine that legends of Milky-white and her ample output originated in hobbit folklore to be passed along through the ages to our own world's myth through blended and corrupted tales of Tom's residence being awash in 'white milk': “Frodo … watched the white chalky path turn into a little river of milk and go bubbling away down into the valley.” – The Fellowship of the Ring, In the House of Tom Bombadil (my underlined emphasis) And then on another matter, to the hobbits - who exactly were these black men, so much larger than them (and thus in comparison – of ogreish size), who had invaded a thoroughly English Shire with such animosity for its inhabitants? Many of the rustic little people had never encountered the Big Folk; from their viewpoint they must have looked gigantic: “Sam ... was finding his first sight of Men ... quite enough, ...”. - The Fellowship of the Ring, At the Sign of the Prancing Pony Apart from the 'ogre' fueled chase echoing Jack's experience, what about that heightened sense of smell? What was all the sniffing about? “... inside the hood came a noise as of someone sniffing ...”. – The Fellowship of the Ring, Three is Company Presumably it was connected to Aragorn's revelation: “... at all times they smell the blood of living things, desiring and hating it.” – The Fellowship of the Ring, A Knife in the Dark Hmm ... the smelling of blood combined with raw hatred! Now where have we seen that theme before? Yes, we must hark back once again to Jack and the Beanstalk and that most famous of English rhymes: “ '... Fee-fi-fo-fum, I smell the blood of an Englishman, Be he alive, or be he dead I’ll have his bones to grind my bread.' ” – English Fairy Tales, Jack and the Beanstalk - pg. 63, J. Jacobs, 1890 Aren't the similarities becoming obvious now? Isn't it obvious how The Lord of the Rings mirrors Jack and the Beanstalk in that both heroes look out from a window on to beanstalks first thing in the morning! “Frodo ran to the eastern window, and found himself looking into … a tall line of beans on poles; ...”, – The Fellowship of the Ring, In the House of Tom Bombadil “So Jack jumped up and dressed himself and went to the window. And what do you think he saw? why, the beans ... had sprung up into a big beanstalk ...”. -English Fairy Tales, Jack and the Beanstalk pg.63, J. Jacobs, 1890 … and there is quite a bit more … (b) The Little Folk’s Presents - In Grimm’s Fairy Tales In being extremely succinct, the most interesting part for us is the implied ‘fairy pact’ between two mortals and a little old fairy-man. In order to seal the agreement: “… the old man clapped them both on the shoulder, in a friendly manner …”. – The Little Folks’ Presents – Tale 182, Grimm’s Household Tales, J. & W. Grimm, Translated by M. Hunt, 1884 (my underlined emphasis) Such an act is also present in The Fellowship of the Ring where Tom, as an old man, taught the hobbits a summoning verse. Then via a specific motion: “… he clapped them each on the shoulder with a laugh, …”, – The Fellowship of the Ring, In the House of Tom Bombadil (my underlined emphasis) and thereby his side of the ‘fairy pact’ was sealed in agreeing to answer a distress call. (c) Other fairytales in which we encounter resonances to Tom The Blue Mountains in Andrew Lang’s Yellow Fairy Book The Bell Deep by Hans Andersen Tom Thumb as set down by Richard Johnson The Legend of Bottle Hill as set down by T. Keightly & no doubt there are several more! ……….. But I want to put fairytales aside and instead turn to ‘Legends’. Because it’s Tom’s hidden likenesses to the god Lugh, and thus a connection to Tara - that I really want to get to! |
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Legends It’s curious that below Tara - within hollow hills, as legend has it, dwelt the race of the Fairies. Here in Irish myth lay the entrance to the underground land of the Celtic daoine sithe (Tuatha Dé Dannan). A spiritual place whose famed hill, is under the guardianship of the greatest of Celtic gods: Lugh (also known as Lug and Lugus). And it’s this deity’s historically recorded mythical attributes that I want to bring out to the forefront. Because I see some of them reflected in our Tom Bombadil’s persona. As such, this lends to the idea that Tolkien made Tom an ultimate source. Lugh, shown triple-faced, Reims region, France From what we can tell from surviving statues, Lugh was crowned with leaves just like Tom’s: “… thick brown hair was crowned with autumn leaves.” – The Fellowship of the Ring, In the House of Tom Bombadil One of Lugh’s major characteristics is his ‘sun god’ depiction: “… Lug … as a sun-god occupies a distinguished place in Irish legend.” – Lectures on the Origin and Growth of Religion as illustrated by Celtic Heathendom, The Zeus of the Insular Celts – pg. 210, J. Rhys, 1888 And indeed, it is not hard to see shades of the hypothetical origin of this ‘red-cheeked’ Celtic solar deity in The Lord of the Rings. For powerfully depicted, there was a ‘red-faced’ Tom at the barrow: “… framed against the light of the sun rising red behind him.” – The Fellowship of the Ring, Fog on the Barrow-downs Adding to a solar deity manifestation was Lugh’s other role as a Storm god – echoed in the following semblance: “ ‘… I’ll sing a wind up and blow leaf and branch away. …’ ”. – The Fellowship of the Ring, The Old Forest Interestingly the Celtic god was titled Lugh Lámfada meaning ‘Lugh of the Long Arm’. Once again this, I believe, was cleverly characterized in The Lord of the Rings. This time through Master Bombadil immobilizing the hobbits beyond normal arm’s length: “…holding up one hand, and they stopped short, as if they had been struck stiff.” – The Fellowship of the Ring, The Old Forest (my underlined emphasis) Lugh was also described to be a ‘master of all trades’ which is perhaps reflected by Tolkien’s assignation of a ‘master’ title to Bombadil. Connected to the underworld by his mother’s marriage to the Formorian god Balor, Lugh shares a similarity of below earth mastery with Tom. Because Bombadil’s voice was heard: “… as if it was coming down through the ground …”. – The Fellowship of the Ring, Fog on the Barrow-downs Hopping and chanting before going into battle, Lugh’s unorthodox behavior was also mimicked in the skirmish involving Old Man Willow: “… a deep glad voice was singing carelessly and … singing nonsense … hopping … along the path, … there came into view a man, or so it seemed.” – The Fellowship of the Ring, The Old Forest Lugh was ultimately more powerful than the Formorian leader, and arch enemy of the Tuatha Dé Dannan, the baleful ‘one-eyed’ Balor. Exhibiting supremacy over the ‘eye’, the ‘trickster’ Lugh defeated Balor of the ‘Evil Eye’ just as Tom defeated Sauron’s magic: “Then Tom put the Ring round the end of his little finger … There was no sign of Tom disappearing!”, – The Fellowship of the Ring, In the House of Tom Bombadil “Tom … spun the Ring in the air – and it vanished with a flash.” – The Fellowship of the Ring, In the House of Tom Bombadil Lugh also had a legal side. It seems that in emulating this god of ‘oaths and sworn contracts’, Tom consummated an implied promise: “… he taught them a rhyme to sing, if they should … fall into any danger …”. – The Fellowship of the Ring, In the House of Tom Bombadil Belted for battle with an enchanted green girdle – Tom would fulfill the compact and save them from disaster. In the nick of time he would arrive, but less like a mortal knight and more like a divine fairy. For the legend of Conn at Tara tells us that a horsed “fairy prince” emerging from the fog: “… disclosed the future history of his country …” and “… is stated to have been called Lug, …”. – Lectures on the Origin and Growth of Religion as illustrated by Celtic Heathendom, The Zeus of the Insular Celts – pg. 210, J. Rhys, 1888 (my underlined emphasis) Because the disclosure was about future Irish monarchs we have a situation paralleled in The Lord of the Rings. Another fairy-like being similarly transmitted to the hobbits a faërian projection of lordly men and a Gondorian king from the past with a premonition of perhaps one to come. When Bombadil: “… spoke they had a vision as it were of a great expanse of years behind them, like a vast shadowy plain over which there strode shapes of Men, tall and grim with bright swords, and last came one with a star on his brow.” – The Fellowship of the Ring, Fog on the Barrow-downs As myth handed down from time immemorial perhaps the Barrow-downs scene became distorted. Perhaps the fairy prince that rode out from the fog was really Tom on Fatty Lumpkin! And just maybe the legend morphed even more from a fairy rescue to one made by a Tolkienian deity! Last, but not least, when it comes to Tara, Bombadil and Celtic fairy tales, it is really not that surprising that Tolkien strengthened the trio’s relationship by deliberately including an archaeological artifact of relevance: a brooch. One rooted on the famous ‘Brooch of Tara’. The Celtic Brooch of Tara Being arguably the most treasured of all Ireland’s ancient jewelry it is the only significant piece associated to the Hill of Tara. Again in a remarkable parallel, the most precious item of jewelry from the barrow-hoard was a brooch: “He chose for himself from the pile a brooch …”. – The Fellowship of the Ring, Fog on the Barrow-downs …… Now we should not expect everything known about Lugh to match up with our Tom. Legends, of course, usually only contain small amounts of truth. But what we see is perhaps a better match than expected, don’t you think? Anyway, it’s to the standing stone that I want to return; with particular focus on its possible connection to an ‘otherworld’. Last edited by Priya; 09-23-2025 at 01:31 PM. |
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Described as a “warning finger” and possibly imbued with enchanted powers the standing stone was characterized, as I have already surmised, to resemble Tara’s. Furthermore, it shared commonality with the one the Irish hero Cuchulainn* (recorded as a reincarnation of Lugh - see my previous post) fell asleep against:
“Cuchulainn went away to a menhir where he sat down and fell asleep.” – The Fairy-Faith in Celtic Countries, Chapter VI – The Sick-Bed of Cuchulainn – pg. 345, W.Y. Evans Wentz, 1911. (my underlined emphasis) Ring any bells? Anyhow, although men were the presumed shapers and erectors of menhirs, no absolute proof exists. The Celts of Brittany, where menhirs are closely clustered (more so than anywhere else in Europe), spoke of legends telling of fairies carrying enormous stones: “The fairy builders, says tradition, went about their work in no haphazard manner. Those among them who possessed a talent for design drew the plans of the proposed structure, the less gifted acting as carriers, labourers, and masons. Apron-carrying was not their only method of porterage, for some bore the stones on their heads, or one under each arm, …”. – Legends & Romances of Brittany, Chapter II, L. Spence, 1917 ![]() Megaliths in Brittany at Carnac So if fashioned and positioned by fairies, it’s not hard to infer that some of these stones were likely spell-bound. But were they somehow linked to an otherworld? “What otherworld?” - you are perfectly entitled to question. “Faërie”, is my answer. The Faërie Tolkien spoke of in his On Fairy-stories lecture paper. The Faërie depicted in Smith of Wootton Major. No - not the ‘imitation otherworlds’ founded by the elves, and depicted as realms governed by Galadriel and Elrond, and whose decay was stemmed through the power of the elven-rings. Nor the one across the sea - sundered from the Primary World by the One. But instead, what I coin as ‘Middle-earth Faërie’; a parallel secondary world created by Eru and existing side-by-side to ours. So it is to ‘Middle-earth Faërie’, and clues to its existence in TLotR that I want to turn to next. For I think it’s the ‘missing link’ in our understanding of what really happened in the Barrow-downs adventure, and to boot - explanations of the many oddities In the House of Tom Bombadil chapter. Any objections? * Tolkien was certainly aware of Cuchulainn – see Sir Gawain and the Green Knight – Note to Line 2452, J.R.R. Tolkien & E.V. Gordon, 1925. It seems probable that a connection to Lugh was also known: “Lugh appears to Dechtire, the mother of Cúchulainn, and tells her that he himself is her little child, i.e. that the child is a reincarnation of himself; and Cúchulainn, when inquired of as to his birth, points proudly to his descent from Lugh.” – The Fairy-Faith in Celtic Countries, Reincarnation of the Tuatha De Danann, W.Y. Evans Wentz, 1911 Last edited by Priya; 09-23-2025 at 01:46 PM. |
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Now we must not forget how one of Tolkien’s early memories was a recollection of one of only two surviving words spoken by pre-Celtic aboriginal inhabitants of the British Isles:
“… nothing of the languages of primitive peoples (before the Celts or Germanic invaders) is now known, except perhaps ond = ‘stone’ (+ one other now forgotten).” – The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter #324 – 4-5 June 1971, Edited by H. Carpenter, 1981 For us it is not just the word ‘ond’ which is of significance, but the fact that it meant ‘stone’. Yes, necessarily a core theme would be the inclusion of ‘old stone’ for his story. But did the novel’s ancient standing stone, of the Downs, somehow connect to Faërie? That’s an idea I haven’t seen bandied about before. Well … if so, how? That’s what we must determine! At this stage, some members/readers might already have joined some imaginary dots. Just like I did, you might be pondering on the very same thoughts that arose in my mind - such as: (a) Did Frodo very briefly enter Middle-earth Faërie after passing between the two standing stones? (b) Did these two ‘magically appearing’ standing stones form a gateway to another world? ![]() On the fringes of the Hill of Tara beside a Church are two standing stones* (c) Was Frodo allowed through because he held a necessary visa (the ‘magic’ Ring)? (d) Was it dark because it was nighttime in Faërie? (e) Did his pony bolt and head back because the beast, being a mortal of the Primary World, did not belong in the Perilous Realm? (f) Did his companions not follow because they lacked a ‘visa’? (g) Did the other hobbits not hear Frodo’s calls because his voice hadn’t the power to transcend across a different plane of existence? (h) Upon reentering the Primary World did the other hobbit voices seem so far away because time in the Primary World had elapsed at a different rate to that in Faërie which operates under a different clock cycle? (I) Was the light in the barrow coming through the ground from Faërie? (j) Was this region of the Barrow-downs the place where two different planes of existence touched? (k) Was the light growing because dawn was breaking in Faërie? (l) Was the light green because Faërie had a green sun? (or perhaps an atmospheric condition in that realm led to green sunlight)? ![]() A Rising Green Sun (or thereabouts!) Hmm … the existence of another world would certainly help to logically explain several loose ends - don’t you think? Yet first, I think it’s worthwhile taking a step back and convincing ourselves that there is a real chance another Faërie was subtly included. And to do that we have to recall that fundamentally Tolkien’s opus: “… is a ‘fairy-story’, but one written … for adults.” – The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter #181 – January or February 1956, Edited by H. Carpenter, 1981 (Tolkien’s emphasis) “… this is an ‘imaginary’ world …”, – The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter #190 – 3 July 1956, Edited by H. Carpenter, 1981 (Tolkien’s emphasis) created to possess: “… coherent structure which it took me years to work out.” – The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter #190 – 3 July 1956, Edited by H. Carpenter, 1981 And I think Tolkien achieved coherency by blending in some of the most ancient folklore and legends of the European continent. His famous denial of C.S. Lewis’s: “… myths are lies, even though lies breathed through silver.”, - Tolkien A biography, Jack – pg. 147, H. Carpenter, 1977 left him to search deeply for those elusive and hidden grains of ‘truth’. Absolutely necessary then, would be the presence of historical connections to our own world. After all, if there was little to nothing ancestral in common – we might as well be reading a story set on an entirely make-believe planet. Yes, maybe one similar to Earth, but certainly not authentic, nor one we could happily relate to or empathize with: “I have … constructed an imaginary time, but kept my feet on my own mother-earth for place. I prefer that to the contemporary mode of seeking remote globes in ‘space’. However curious, they are alien, and not lovable with the love of blood-kin.” – The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter #211 – 14 October 1958, Edited by H. Carpenter, 1981 Then it was those historic links which were so essential. And this aim could best be achieved by entangling some of our world’s records deeply into his own storyline. To be maintained was: “… the literary pretence of historicity and dependence on record …”. - The Letters of J.R.R. Tolkien, Letter #129 – 10 September 1950, Edited by H. Carpenter, 1981 (my underlined emphasis) But though modern-day archaeologists, historians and folklorists have speculated a great deal, there are no ancient surviving records on the function of single (or isolated) standing stones. Or are there? * Note how from this angle how they lean towards each other in the same manner as the text: “… suddenly he saw, towering ominous before him and leaning slightly towards one another like the pillars of a headless door, two huge standing stones.” – The Fellowship of the Ring, Fog on the Barrow-downs Last edited by Priya; 10-09-2025 at 01:43 PM. |
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Before, I comment on records in our world of single standing stones - I want to try to strengthen the idea about Frodo inadvertently entering Faërie. To do that I think we ought to think more about our world’s tales of faërie. Thus I’ve decided to dig out instances where the land of Faërie pops out to the forefront in our early literature.
So where exactly does a close-quarters faërie loom large? Actually reports are reasonably numerous and there is sufficient evidence Tolkien knew all below and others too: (a) Thomas the Rhymer being carried off into fairyland upon the Queen of Faërie’s milk-white steed. (b) Pwyll, Prince of Dyfed, entering Annwn while lost in a magical fog and spending a year in the Welsh otherworld per the Mabinogion. (c) Sir Orfeo entering the realm of Faërie. (d) King Arthur’s Avalon – described as both across the water in the west but also at Glastonbury Tor. (e) The ‘Land below Woolpit’ where two legendary green children emerged according to Ralph of Coggeshall. (f) The fabled realm below hilly mounds in the legends of the Celtic Tuatha-de-Dannan. ![]() ‘Riders of the Sidhe’, John Duncan, 1911 What we need to recognize is that access to a local land-situated kind of faërie has been extensively reported. And in times close to our own – far off from Tolkien’s mythic Ages. It is observable such reports were replete with creatures just like the Professor’s elves. For Tolkien, faërie was primarily a place – the so-called ‘Perilous Realm’. Putting aside the question of whether such a land or fairies really exist outside of imagination, from what I can tell Tolkien believed that the concept and origin of faërie began with man as a sub-creator in triggering the ‘invention’ of a fairy tale. And that tale might have been born indirectly from hearsay or directly from personal experience; yet it would likely have possessed at least a nugget of truth. A genuine fairy tale always exhibits a magical face and is, more often than not, set in the land of Faërie. A place which is not only the natural habitation of fays (fairy folk to us) but, according to the Professor, also contains creatures such as: “… elves and … dwarfs, witches, trolls, giants, or dragons: …”. – The Monsters and the Critics and Other Essays, On Fairy-stories – pg. 113, HarperCollins, 1983 Tolkien made plain that for humans with a natural bent towards make-believe: “Fantasy, the making or glimpsing of Other-worlds, was the heart of the desire of Faërie.” – The Monsters and the Critics and Other Essays, On Fairy-stories – pg. 135, HarperCollins, 1983 Of great significance is his employment of the term: “Other-worlds”. Most notably it is delineated in plural form. And thus the case can be made that when engaged in creating his own fantasy, ‘Faërie’ was not in his mind limited to a singular ‘Other-world’. It’s quite possible he had in mind another faerie where all these fantastic creatures existed in some corner or at some time within its own chronological history. So for us, it is essential to grasp the concept of a multiplicity of otherworlds being present in Tolkien’s literature. These can simply be equated to secondary worlds, being distinct from our primary one. … to be continued Last edited by Priya; 09-15-2025 at 03:39 PM. |
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The most definite and obvious otherworld of Tolkien’s sub-created mythology is voiced in Bilbo’s poetic recital at Rivendell:
“… from Otherworld beyond the Sea …”. – The Fellowship of the Ring, Many Meetings, Poem: Eärendil was a mariner The fabled province of the ‘gods’, in which lay ‘Elvenhome’, and once part of the Primary World had, due to the transgressions of men, been sundered away into a separate otherworld. Initially termed as ‘Faëry’ in some of the earliest works of the mythology (see The Book of Lost Tales Vols. I & II – by the time of The Hobbit it had become titled: “… Faërie in the West.” – The Hobbit, Flies and Spiders Naturally, as the publication of The Hobbit was swiftly followed by the inception of The Lord of the Rings which in turn, early on, was hindered by preparation for the Andrew Lang Lecture, one might wonder whether multiple worlds in the forefront of Tolkien’s mind actively led to another jump in a developing mythology. After all - as intimated in the Lecture, though witches, trolls, giants, dragons and other such fantastical beings ‘intrude’ into our Primary World – they really belong to Faërie; ![]() ‘In Fairyland’, Andrew Lang, Originally illustrated 1870 (above 1979 reprint) but for Tolkien, certainly not the ‘Faërie in the West’. Because the idyllic ‘Blessed Realm’ where: “… naught faded nor withered, neither was there any stain upon flower or leaf in that land, nor any corruption or sickness in anything that lived; …”, – The Silmarillion, Of the Beginning of Days was wholly incompatible. I simply cannot emphasize that enough! And so where exactly was the faërie of all those monsters and fay creatures? Was it just a place that resided in his mind, or the minds of other fairy tale inventors? Maybe – but maybe not. Tolkien might well have thought there was more to the matter. A shred of doubt would have been enough to build upon. As such, I believe that for The Lord of the Rings Tolkien subcreated a faërie adjoining Middle-earth. One consistent with existing real-world mythology associated to the soil of England and nearby lands. Intimately connected to ‘Middle-earth Faërie’ and central to the plan, was the standing stone set atop the dished and rounded hill. Yet before returning to ponder the standing stone, readers of this thread might first ask: ‘Why bother? Was it absolutely necessary to create another faërie? And where is the proof?’ … to be continued Last edited by Priya; 10-09-2025 at 01:51 PM. |
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