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Spirit of Mist
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There is another element that should be considered, though it does not specifically relate to what I or any other member here might "like to see." This element is, for better or worse, what Warner Brothers might believe a fan, and specifically a casual fan rather than an aficionado, might prefer to see. In other words, what is commercially desirable?
We see this issue in Rings of Power. There is no specific, lore-based, reason to include Hobbits in the story of the making of the Rings and the rise of Sauron. Hobbits were not part of the tale. Indeed, LoTR makes it clear that Hobbits flew under everyone's radar until late in the Third Age. They were included because the showrunners and Amazon wanted Hobbits in the series for commercial reasons. We also see this in Jackson's version of The Hobbit. Elves had a minor role in the story, as written. But the movies "had" to include Galadriel, Legolas and Tauriel. So, Warner Brother's decisions regarding what subject matter to use, will heavily consider what they believe the casual fan will want to see. This might include Hobbits, Elves, dragons, Balrogs, Blue Wizards and who knows what else...
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Curmudgeonly Wordwraith
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Perhaps then they'll bring back the sandworms from Arrakis that were used in The Hobbit film, and thus garner attention from fans of the hugely popular Dune movie franchise. "Tell me of your homeworld, Estel."
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Blossom of Dwimordene
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I suppose then it simply becomes a question of target audience. Sadly, the chances of Downers being a representative target group are next to nothing. However, there are more "shades" to Tolkien fans. The movie franchise has its own set of fans. Would Warner Bros rely on "movie canon" in any way? Considering the vast influence this franchise has on the collective image of certain concepts, undoubtedly there will be bleedthrough. But would WB purposefully stick by certain concepts or images introduced in the movies? Would they try to guess what the average movie fan would like to see, and preserve the movie continuity / recognizability? Would they attempt to preserve recognizability with the Amazon show?
It's a fine can of worms, trying to guess what goes on in the planning stages of the movie industry.
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Wight
Join Date: Jun 2023
Location: Treading the Narrow Way
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Quite so, quite so. I think they really ought to stay away from any association with Amazon's series. They can gamble on the hope that RoP will be a some sort of big hit (the chance of this is all but gone, I think) and then absorb fans, publicity, and etc. from it, but that would be wistful thinking. It seems far more likely that the animosity which they would gain from such a course would far outweigh any advantages. They are better off succeeding -or failing- by their own merit.
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Loremaster of Annúminas
Join Date: Oct 2006
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What would I like to see in Warner Bros. new movies?
Nothing. I wish they would keep their pin heads and grasping claws off of Tolkien's world.
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Wight
Join Date: Jun 2023
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I feel that way after I see the end result. I find that, before seeing it, I am still hopeful in spite of myself, even though I still know deep down that they shall merely do what movies always do. Afterall, why would Warner Bros. be some sort of great exception? But I may as well take the pleasure from it that I can, which is, essentially, saying to myself (and anyone who happens to read it) "Wouldn't it be nice if they...".
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Loremaster of Annúminas
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My view is that nobody but Tolkien can write Tolkien.
Consider this analogy: a composer today succeeds in writing imitation Mozart which is such an expert pastiche one can hardly tell the difference (although I doubt Mozart's sublimity could ever be reproduced). But in that case, wouldn't we want a composer that talented writing his own stuff, not imitating? Similarly, if there exists (which I doubt) a screenwriter of the awesome talent required to adapt Tolkien well, then his talent is wasted on adaptation.
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