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Boromir88 · 09-17-2022, 06:45 AM

Galadriel plays the Karen "I need to speak to your manager" act superbly. She really got into the role, even getting the proper haircut from Isildur to pull it off!

Legate of Amon Lanc · 09-18-2022, 09:12 AM

I mentioned this elsewhere, but I am thrilled that they did not shy away from showing warg nipples. All six of them! It was also a clever subtle way to hint at where the Orcs are getting their nutrition, especially calcium, from. I am looking forward to seeing the Orc dairy farms in the subsequent episodes, with hundreds of wargs.

Of course that is not the only direction this could go. Maybe it will offer a more nuanced portrayal of the Orcs, not just like the evil species that uses other beings, but maybe Orcs who care for mother warg who in turn cares for her little ones, and we could see her breastfeeding the little warglings. That would serve to remind the audience that breastfeeding is something completely natural and thus does not need to be censored, even among wargs.

On a different note, I also appreciate laying the grounds for the Hobbits' eventual motivation to bring down Sauron. I think that was one of the things Tolkien omitted: it was never properly explained why Frodo et al. should care if Sauron stands and falls. But this prequel is making it all clear. Sauron had lived with the Harfoots for a time. The destruction of his Ring shall be the Hobbits' revenge for his rude interruption of the Harfoot lifestyle, breaking their wagon, refusing to fix uncle Otho's leg and setting their Book on fire. If there has ever been well-written retconning, this is one!

Oddwen · 09-23-2022, 11:17 PM

What else can I sing the praises of this week except for Elendil's mighty helmet? The wings of which will surely carry the tall ships and tall kings, three times three, divided by two, add a couple, carry the one, straight to Middle Earth? Earendil wishes that Vingelot could take him as high as Elendil's Helm can take Elendil himself. Well were Bronwyn & Arondil & company to fear the shadow of the Oncoming Helm, the mere rumor of which is enough to make Morgoth himself quake in his unspecified footwear. If ever Gorthol of Bar-en-Danwedh were to catch sight of the Helmendil well then he might cry. And well he might. And so well might we all.

*is the third ruler Miriel or Isildur? Is Elendil technically a king yet? The world may never know...

Boromir88 · 09-30-2022, 12:08 PM

Episode 5 was by far the best. I loved the initial introduction to Celebrimbor, but something was missing. I realized Celebrimbor didn't appear like he's ever wielded a hammer in his life. He didn't look like a renowned Elven smith. I needed to see him actually forge something to truly appreciate the character. Well, Episode 5 delivered!

The construction of the mithril tanning beds, radiating enough silmaril light to soak all elves in it, was a stroke of genius. I was wary of the "mad scientist" Celebrimbor, but you have to be a bit mad to be a true craftsman.

Oddwen · 09-30-2022, 10:09 PM

They should have called this episode "Happy Families" because of all the reunions - Halbrand with his wife and child, Bronwyn and Theo - Galadriel with her husband Celebrimbadar - Evil Barliman Butterbur and the Queen of Numenor - Elendil with his clones (clones are family, right?) - and Ossë and Aulë. The slo-mo shots were too repetitive, and they could have chosen a better cover of "Chariots of Fire", but at least the lens flares were tasteful.

Boromir88 · 10-08-2022, 07:05 AM

The creativity of others helps me not take the show seriously.

09-17-2022, 06:45 AM	#1
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Galadriel plays the Karen "I need to speak to your manager" act superbly. She really got into the role, even getting the proper haircut from Isildur to pull it off! __________________ Fenris Penguin

09-18-2022, 09:12 AM	#2
Legate of Amon Lanc A Voice That Gainsayeth Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: In that far land beyond the Sea Posts: 7,431	I mentioned this elsewhere, but I am thrilled that they did not shy away from showing warg nipples. All six of them! It was also a clever subtle way to hint at where the Orcs are getting their nutrition, especially calcium, from. I am looking forward to seeing the Orc dairy farms in the subsequent episodes, with hundreds of wargs. Of course that is not the only direction this could go. Maybe it will offer a more nuanced portrayal of the Orcs, not just like the evil species that uses other beings, but maybe Orcs who care for mother warg who in turn cares for her little ones, and we could see her breastfeeding the little warglings. That would serve to remind the audience that breastfeeding is something completely natural and thus does not need to be censored, even among wargs. On a different note, I also appreciate laying the grounds for the Hobbits' eventual motivation to bring down Sauron. I think that was one of the things Tolkien omitted: it was never properly explained why Frodo et al. should care if Sauron stands and falls. But this prequel is making it all clear. Sauron had lived with the Harfoots for a time. The destruction of his Ring shall be the Hobbits' revenge for his rude interruption of the Harfoot lifestyle, breaking their wagon, refusing to fix uncle Otho's leg and setting their Book on fire. If there has ever been well-written retconning, this is one! __________________ "Should the story say 'he ate bread,' the dramatic producer can only show 'a piece of bread' according to his taste or fancy, but the hearer of the story will think of bread in general and picture it in some form of his own." -On Fairy-Stories

09-23-2022, 11:17 PM	#3
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,145	What else can I sing the praises of this week except for Elendil's mighty helmet? The wings of which will surely carry the tall ships and tall kings, three times three, divided by two, add a couple, carry the one, straight to Middle Earth? Earendil wishes that Vingelot could take him as high as Elendil's Helm can take Elendil himself. Well were Bronwyn & Arondil & company to fear the shadow of the Oncoming Helm, the mere rumor of which is enough to make Morgoth himself quake in his unspecified footwear. If ever Gorthol of Bar-en-Danwedh were to catch sight of the Helmendil well then he might cry. And well he might. And so well might we all. *is the third ruler Miriel or Isildur? Is Elendil technically a king yet? The world may never know... __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

09-30-2022, 12:08 PM	#4
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	Episode 5 was by far the best. I loved the initial introduction to Celebrimbor, but something was missing. I realized Celebrimbor didn't appear like he's ever wielded a hammer in his life. He didn't look like a renowned Elven smith. I needed to see him actually forge something to truly appreciate the character. Well, Episode 5 delivered! The construction of the mithril tanning beds, radiating enough silmaril light to soak all elves in it, was a stroke of genius. I was wary of the "mad scientist" Celebrimbor, but you have to be a bit mad to be a true craftsman. __________________ Fenris Penguin

09-30-2022, 10:09 PM	#5
Oddwen Drummer in the Deep Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Next Sunday A.D. Posts: 2,145	They should have called this episode "Happy Families" because of all the reunions - Halbrand with his wife and child, Bronwyn and Theo - Galadriel with her husband Celebrimbadar - Evil Barliman Butterbur and the Queen of Numenor - Elendil with his clones (clones are family, right?) - and Ossë and Aulë. The slo-mo shots were too repetitive, and they could have chosen a better cover of "Chariots of Fire", but at least the lens flares were tasteful. __________________ But all the while I sit and think of times there were before I listen for returning feet and voices at the door

10-08-2022, 07:05 AM	#6
Boromir88 Laconic Loreman Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: USA Posts: 7,521	The creativity of others helps me not take the show seriously. __________________ Fenris Penguin

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