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Old 07-29-2022, 05:12 PM   #1
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Well, if they are humanoid, then the only sisters that existed during that time period are Valier and Finwe's two daughters. And there aren't many sister duos in Arda, to be fair.
Just forget the word "sisters" for now and replace with "group members". It's gonna make your life easier.

Team effort identified Feanor and Fingolfin. You have a timeframe/setting for two of the stanzas. It's time to start putting it together. Once again, try thinking of this as a password and find the unifying theme.
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Old 07-30-2022, 03:29 AM   #2
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Well, you said Feanor is not a part of this group, but the second is, and apparently Fingolfin is too... *scratches head*
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Old 07-30-2022, 03:33 AM   #3
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Why do I feel like ??? is the eldest? Of Balrogs? *thinking*
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Old 07-30-2022, 08:12 AM   #4
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Why do I feel like ??? is the eldest? Of Balrogs? *thinking*
Again not sure about which element you are referring to ("oldest" or "second"?), but neither of those is a balrog.
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Old 07-30-2022, 10:43 AM   #5
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Well, the preceding lines mean that there is a pair of sisters, who are somehow connected with Fingolfin.

But with the way you're talking, I picture in my head some group that it unseen, who destroyed their motherland, somehow. And I keep thinking about some group of 'bad guys'.
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Old 07-30-2022, 04:54 PM   #6
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Well, the preceding lines mean that there is a pair of sisters, who are somehow connected with Fingolfin.
No. In fact, there are more than a pair. And they are described out of order. They are not connected with Fingolfin any more than "second" is woth Feanor - both Fs are there to give context and to ground you in some specific characters and events. For preceding lines, don't go as far back as sisters. Start with "a burst", and see if you can interpret just that passage, knowing that the lord is Fingolfin.

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But with the way you're talking, I picture in my head some group that it unseen, who destroyed their motherland, somehow. And I keep thinking about some group of 'bad guys'.
The group is not unseen, nor villains. But you are not thinking in the right categories.

It might make your riddling easier too if you take "sisters" less literally, but take a number of other lines more literally. Stop fixating on sisters. But see if a literalnread of some poetic aoubding stuff gives you more info.
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A burst of fire?
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Old 07-30-2022, 08:10 AM   #8
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Well, you said Feanor is not a part of this group, but the second is, and apparently Fingolfin is too... *scratches head*
...No, Fingolfin is not. Fingolfin is the lord who lost all hope, not one of the group. Not every element of the riddle is part of the final answer, and you need to be careful not to confuse them. Knowing Fingolfin though, read the second stanza again and see if you can work backwards up the text - what do the preceding lines mean?
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