Tol-in-Gaurhoth CXV: On the Borders of Mirkwood - Game Thread

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Playing Beast Hunter meant I had to think like a Ranger. So, much of my analysis was concerned with who the Wolves would attack than who the Wolves are. I guess that was pretty much obvious based on my voting record.

DAY 1: Brinn and Lottie (my only two choices) were basically 'people who weren't one of the three Cobblers™, or people who didn't vote for them or Hui'. I eventually chose the former. Screaming ensued.

DAY 2: This one I've explained often enough. In any case I would never have thought of setting the trap for BG's house, so shrug.

DAY 3: Greenie (as well as the dead Form) was the only one not to vote for Form. Didn't expect her to be gifted, let alone the Seer. I had half-expected to die this NIGHT because I hoped the Ranger prioritised the Seer. Apparently, this scenario was closer than I thought.

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

To be fair, would I have had a little less busy RL day that Night, I might have still protected someone else, but I didn't have any feasible alternative for Nilp.

Re New Game (heh, literally the source of my first post's image): My disastrous decision-making in this game was due to my RL state, compounded by the deadline (and it is in that order; I felt I was participating fine the first two DAYs I wasn't compromised.) I told A Certain Critter that I would do nothing on DAY 3 because I didn't look in danger of the lynch, but then my physical condition deteriorated. (The Nog and Form-waggons quickly acquiring momentum made me realise anyone with a soupçon of suspicion could be lynched, which would be bad if I weren't around to explain myself.)

So I'd lean strongly towards joining the next game if the deadline were ah, more amenable to my location. Although there's no need to bend over backwards to accomodate me or A Possible Medical Murine--after all, we are a minority (hah).

Also, more cartoon images.



EDIT: I forgot to add that I might be out of regular employment by July, and my freelance thingy doesn't look like picking up anytime soon (imagine having two specialisations, with almost little in common, being nuked by the same thing), so by then I might be more willing to throw myself at anything.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Lommy

Also, I really liked Rikae's random comment on categorising players based on perceptiveness, persuasiveness and resilience. Where do you guys think you stand?

I liked this too! I'd say I'm perceptive but I don't always draw the right conclusions from the things I perceive I guess fairly resilient too, in that I tend to survive at least halfway through and often right to the end, and rarely get lynched. Persuasive, not so much.

Originally Posted by Nilp

DAY 3: Greenie (as well as the dead Form) was the only one not to vote for Form. Didn't expect her to be gifted, let alone the Seer. I had half-expected to die this NIGHT because I hoped the Ranger prioritised the Seer. Apparently, this scenario was closer than I thought.

So Huin was literally the only one who did spot me? *tips Seer hat* I was pretty astonished to read the Form lynch the next morning because a) I didn't really think he was that suspicious, and b) since when do 10 people decide to vote for the same person unless he was a Seer-dreamed wolf or something? I did worry that it would put me in more of a spotlight than I wanted as I was doing okay at the under-everyone's-radar thing until then. Turns out I was more right than I knew.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Boromir88

Still, I guess that's the way of gaming and fortune. All the best laid plans of players and mods...Because had Nilp chosen Lottie night 2, or had the wolves taken the bait and tried to kill him Night 3, Pitch would have been the one sacrificed. If I'm remembering that correctly. They wisely chose Legate Night 4, figuring he was the one most likely to go down in a lynch soon. Also, fortunate that he was the wolf Greenie dreamed of already.

Actually, we had me in the front already the Night before I died. And we even debated switching back to Pitch again, because NightWolfing possibilities and we still had ALL the Gifteds running about! See, that Night 4 was actually a pretty important marker: from our perspective, before it, there were three Gifteds, one of whom was essentially a known innocent on top of all, and the two others of whom we had no clue who they might be. After the Night, suddenly the Seer was dead and the BH was without his powers, which was actually a win. The longer that would have continued, the worse for us - the need to skirt around both BH and Ranger, who could take turns in protecting the Seer, if it came to that (well, it actually happened).

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

I was guessing my trap failed for being too obvious, but it was probably obvious for a different reason. I'd also wait for Sally's (❤️) lycan letters, but why was BG the Night 2 kill?)

Among other things, we agreed that we did not have any better Seer leads than her the Space Odyssey quote, and we also agreed that her death will create confusion in several ways, and that she probably was strongly considered innocent by multiple people.

My packmates may want to correct me or add their own perspective, but at least my personal perspective was that very often our Nights were like: look for who might be the Seer - finding only a couple of cases with very wobbly bases - out of those not-so-convincing options, see what other advantages they have in case they are not the Seer.

Originally Posted by Nilpaurion Felagund

Later I'll post my thoughts on the Beast Hunter role, and to answer this:

I am actually curious what you think about the role. It seemed a very interesting role to me and you were a veritable nightmare for us! And I think your reveal was brilliant, or, in other words, the worst thing that could have happened to us. I think Pitch said something that very well summed up my feelings back then on the Game Thread as his reaction to when you did it. A known innocent for the village, but one we can't kill because it almost certainly kills one of us.

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

But I second your question: why BG - and if wolves were surprised Greenie was the Seer, why Greenie?

I don't know if we were completely surprised - well, I was, but in the sense that "wow, it worked! We hit the Seer after we kept missing for Nights on end!" - plus, again, speaking for myself, I had no more indication that Greenie was the Seer than anybody else; in fact, less.

But don't take my perspective as very representative. I said it to my packmates and I'm saying again, I am really bad at spotting Gifteds. If you don't place a Palantír icon into your first post or say "dark have been my dreams of late", I won't even look at you.

[Pitchwife]

So I just read through the Dead thread (beautiful calligraphy, Hui!), and watching D4 unfold through the eyes of the deceased brought back all the thrill and madness once again. I wonder how it would have gone if Nilp had stayed asleep - sally and I probably would have looked better on D5 with Mac's role revealed, and I actually considered faking a Ranger reveal if our Night kill had been blocked. But much better having it end with a flourish like this.

Shasta, if you're still reading, you really did your best to swing it for the village on D4. Not your fault the only people heeding you were wolves.

Originally Posted by Legate

My packmates may want to correct me or add their own perspective, but at least my personal perspective was that very often our Nights were like: look for who might be the Seer - finding only a couple of cases with very wobbly bases - out of those not-so-convincing options, see what other advantages they have in case they are not the Seer.

This is basically it. We obviously swallowed Lottie's Seer bait (undecided whether she'd dreamed Hui or Legate) and BG's Odyssey quote (also the part 'Seer: no comment yet' in her list hinting it might be herself). We almost fell for Rikae's Seer hints and killed our cobbler, but then switched to Greenie more or less because she looked too innocent to lynch and had too good reads on people to keep around till endgame. I think Greenie + Brinn + Nilp were our most feared antagonists this game (Brinn was also my alternative candidate for being the Ranger at the end).

[Thinlómien]

I'm actually very glad the game ended when it did - had I made a save, I would have started the Day by revealing, apologising to Sally and Pitch and demanding the lynch of Mac, Kath and Brinn... safe to say, that would have probably undone the redemption I'd have got by making a save.

[Thinlómien]

Read through the dead thread! Very entertaining, and nice team spirit there. Made me wonder how would it be to have a living thread where the vote would have to done by a majority consensus. That might be very interesting actually! And would affect wolf behaviour too.

I also really liked Legate's idea of the dead disqualifying a vote, and Form's ghost idea! Especially the Tolkien quotes only approach would be very fun.

And having seen both the recent mods suffering because they can't share their feelings during the game - I really really recommend co-mods. It's more fun than modding alone imo and it results in the wackiest narrations. And you can split the duty however you want, be equals or have a main mod and an assistant/backup mod, just as long as the players know who to send their Night picks.

[Kath]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

And having seen both the recent mods suffering because they can't share their feelings during the game - I really really recommend co-mods. It's more fun than modding alone imo and it results in the wackiest narrations. And you can split the duty however you want, be equals or have a main mod and an assistant/backup mod, just as long as the players know who to send their Night picks.

I think this reads as Lommy offering to co-mod the next game with Legate.