Tol-in-Gaurhoth (Isle of Werewolves)

[Nogrod]

Let's play Werewolf again?

I know some people (myself included) have been joking lately, that with the global situation being what it is, a game of Werewolf could be in place. We discussed this with Thinlomien and A Little Green just a moment ago and decided that I'd go and make an actual suggestion of it here. So why not play a game for a looong time?

If there would be willing players to play a game, there would be a couple of things we'd need to consider.


Modding: Most people surely crave for playing rather than modding now. I could mod the game unless there is someone who would really want to do that. In case there are many people wishing to mod a game, let's see if we have those old modding-lists somewhere, and then see who of the willing are highest on that list.


Game-mechanics: My initial idea was, that this would call for a really basic "old school" game, but then I managed to think it twice. The problem with the basic game is, that if you get lynched on the first day, which happens to someone anyway, the game is over. I think that after this long pause in Werewolf it would be much more fun if everyone could play a bit longer than that.

Therefore I'd suggest some form of a "Dead-thread"-game, where playing in the dead-thread would be meaningful and interesting (aka. the dead would have some power on the events - but not too much, of course). We should discuss the details together. I'd not suggest a Dueling Wizards -game or any such over-complex one though. A simple game, but one where the dead could also play and try to actually influence the outcome.


Theme: Would it be distasteful / out of question to put the game into the world of "The Children of Húrin" where plague ravaged the village? Well, that's just one idea. And if someone else mods the game, they sure are free to come up with whatever they like.


So, what say you? Shall we play?

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

So, what say you? Shall we play?

Yes please!

A basic game would be nice (perhaps with a cobbler thrown in if we have enough players...? one can always hope) but I'm not opposed to a dead thread if the rules are as simple as they were the last time.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

I am very happy that there is a brave soul who would suggest it! I am sure there are more of the same mind.

I would also advocate for a simple game, nothing too experimental. A basic Wolves-Seer-Ranger-Hunter-possibly Cobbler setup would be fine.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

The problem with the basic game is, that if you get lynched on the first day, which happens to someone anyway, the game is over. I think that after this long pause in Werewolf it would be much more fun if everyone could play a bit longer than that.

Therefore I'd suggest some form of a "Dead-thread"-game, where playing in the dead-thread would be meaningful and interesting (aka. the dead would have some power on the events - but not too much, of course). We should discuss the details together. I'd not suggest a Dueling Wizards -game or any such over-complex one though. A simple game, but one where the dead could also play and try to actually influence the outcome.

A good observation. I agree with that sentiment. Perhaps we (and yes, I already said "we"; clearly I am already counting on this happening and counting with me being there - woe is me...) could have a dead thread - maybe with some simple power such as giving the one extra vote to a person every day, meaning empowering one of the living they trust, or somesuch. Even though I remember it frustrated me to no end as a Wolf. But isn't frustration an inseparable part of a good WW game?

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Theme: Would it be distasteful / out of question to put the game into the world of "The Children of Húrin" where plague ravaged the village? Well, that's just one idea. And if someone else mods the game, they sure are free to come up with whatever they like.

For myself, I don't think it a problem. I would exactly think it appropriate. "If we can't do very much about it, we can at least laugh about it," as one great artist compatriot of mine once said.

[Huinesoron]

I totally don't have time for this, so I'm in if you'll have me.

If you're looking at a Halls of Waiting thread, does that imply that roles & alignment aren't revealed on death? I don't even remember how the Downs usually does that, but being outed as a wolf could make interacting in the Halls kind of depressing. On the other hand, reveal-less deaths could make being in the village rather frustrating.

hS

[Loslote]

I would absolutely be interested in playing a game of Werewolf! I am getting very restless being at home all day every day, and having deadlines every day might even help me remember what day it is.

[Kitanna]

I think I can manage to play. It's been so long, I'll probably just make wild accusations and die Day 1, but you know what? I'm ok with that.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

I think I can manage to play. It's been so long, I'll probably just make wild accusations and die Day 1, but you know what? I'm ok with that.

Hey, that's my mode of operation!

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Hey, that's my mode of operation!

Let the race to be lynched first begin!

[Pitchwife]

Oh great Googly-Moogly, it's actually happening! Go Noggins!

I'm in, of course. I don't remember actually playing in a game with a dead thread (which is to say I probably have, but it's been too long), so that would be cool.

Also, I'm totally for a CoH plague setting, if only because it opens up all kinds of possibilities for banter about killing Lalaith (Túrin's sister, not the Downer; athough possibly that too, it depends).

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

I totally don't have time for this, so I'm in if you'll have me.

I see you've caught the spirit.

[Kath]

We really are back a decade aren't we? And it's so lovely to be with you all again! I would love to join the game. Basic rules would be perfect as it's been such a long time and I'd be happy with a tongue-in-cheek plague setting.

Dead Thread sounds interesting but agreed - not sure how it would work if roles are revealed upon lynching ...

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

I see you've caught the spirit.

What? He's caught it? He's caught the spirit? Get away from me. 2 meter distance. Don't you dare step closer. And put a mask on!


Depending on when the game will happen, I might only be able to play for half a week at a time. But with a dead thread that might not be too bad, assuming I live bright and die young.

[Lhunardawen]

Whyyyyy did this happen just when I was about to start working again??? (Yeah I know, odd timing, but there it is.)

But what the Angamandi, sign me up. Has a dead thread game been played before? My last game was 9 years ago.

[Inziladun]

Still in the same boat: uncertain ability to play at work, early bedtime, grass-cutting season again...but how could I refuse?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

If you're looking at a Halls of Waiting thread, does that imply that roles & alignment aren't revealed on death? I don't even remember how the Downs usually does that, but being outed as a wolf could make interacting in the Halls kind of depressing. On the other hand, reveal-less deaths could make being in the village rather frustrating.

Good point to raise.

As far as I am concerned, I'd 100% advocate for revealing the roles upon death, no complicated nonsense with sending true revelations from the dead thread and so on.

It might make dead Wolves somewhat isolated from the community, but I remember many having fun with this (see various phantom-esque existences just trolling to no end). I mean, nothing prevents a dead Wolf from participating in the Dead discussion - whether anyone is going to pay attention to them is a different thing. Unless someone created a "sub-plot" for the Dead thread (but it should be something that would not interfere with the Living too much, or ideally not at all).

In the absolutely worst case, a Wolf will end up lynched on Day 1, then ostracised by fellow dead, and will be bored for the rest of the game. But that is the worst-case scenario for one person, as opposed to everyone else. I think it's worth it.

Of course, if we can think of any way to make it better, I'm open for it, but let's not contrive too complicated schemes.

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

It might make dead Wolves somewhat isolated from the community, but I remember many having fun with this (see various phantom-esque existences just trolling to no end). I mean, nothing prevents a dead Wolf from participating in the Dead discussion - whether anyone is going to pay attention to them is a different thing. Unless someone created a "sub-plot" for the Dead thread (but it should be something that would not interfere with the Living too much, or ideally not at all).

And I suppose there's also the fact that a dead Wolf still doesn't have to tell the truth about who their remaining packmates are... okay, as I'm sure you're relieve to hear () I'm convinced on that point.

hS

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

And I suppose there's also the fact that a dead Wolf still doesn't have to tell the truth about who their remaining packmates are... okay, as I'm sure you're relieve to hear () I'm convinced on that point.

hS

Now I wanna be the first dead wolf, to troll people about my packmates.

[Nogrod]

I'm in on plotting the game (have been re-reading The CoH) and will open a discussion thread for it in a moment. Let's continue the discussion of the rules there.

I think I have quite a quite a nice solution to both problems brought forth here, aka. revealing the roles vs. keeping the "dead thread" interesting and how to make the DT simple & balanced in view of the dynamics of the whole game.

I'll post my initial ideas shortly in the game discussion thread.

[Urwen]

Um.....Could I play too? I am, like, super stoked for CoH theme...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Um.....Could I play too? I am, like, super stoked for CoH theme...

Of course. Welcome!

I'll add you to the player list in the discussion thread.