Family Tree Trivia

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Tolkien Gateway says eight.

I didn't actually check the answer myself... Aredhel and Idril, Galadriel, Celebrian, and Arwen, Finduilas... that's six by Silm-canon, but yes, Findis and Irime makes eight.

Huh, and Irime crossed the Ice with Fingolfin. Given that she was "generally known" as Lalwen, I wonder if Lal[aith Ur]wen was partially named in her honour? After Fingolfin's death, she would have been the Grand Old Lady of the Noldor in Middle-earth, and she seems to have lived in Hithlum, so it's not at all implausible.

Look, now I'm tangenting. ^_^ To you.

hS

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Huh, and Irime crossed the Ice with Fingolfin. Given that she was "generally known" as Lalwen, I wonder if Lal[aith Ur]wen was partially named in her honour? After Fingolfin's death, she would have been the Grand Old Lady of the Noldor in Middle-earth, and she seems to have lived in Hithlum, so it's not at all implausible.
hS

Nice.

And speaking of those two, what is the relation between them?

(And yes, they do have one via Turgon ^_^)

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Nice.

And speaking of those two, what is the relation between them?

(And yes, they do have one via Turgon ^_^)

Indeed they do! Lalwen is Lalaith's first cousin's great aunt by marriage, while Lalaith is Lalwen's grand-niece's husband's first cousin.

hS

[Urwen]

Correct.

[Huinesoron]

Almost all of Tolkien's family trees are exclusively among what Treebeard calls the Free Peoples, and the Eldar call the Incarnates or Mirröanwi: Elves, Dwarves, Men, and Ents.

Name three (or more!) parent-child relationships which do not meet this description.

(For the purposes of this question, petty-dwarves, Hobbits, Druedain etc count as part of their ancestral races.)

hS

[Urwen]

Mim/Ibun, Sam/Elanor, Primula/Frodo.

Easy enough. ^_^

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Mim/Ibun, Sam/Elanor, Primula/Frodo.

Easy enough. ^_^

I'm guessing you wrote this before I put in my clarification (possibly it went up after you'd posted, though I didn't see your post when it went through). Hobbits and Petty-dwarves are genetically human and dwarvish, whatever they might think (and they're most definitely Rational Incarnates!).

hS