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Huinesoron · 07-31-2019, 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Urwen

The third line is Rose, though.

No, it isn't.

hS

Urwen · 07-31-2019, 03:32 AM

Then I don't understand.

Urwen · 07-31-2019, 03:35 AM

Although I'd say.....it's Sam.

Huinesoron · 07-31-2019, 04:17 AM

It's not Sam.

Consider each line separately (ignore 'and you' at the end of 3, that's just the start of line 4). Try to come up with an answer that works for every line. Consider that I have included both cryptic portions pointing at the precise name, and thematic (I guess) pieces talking about characteristics of the answer.

hS

Urwen · 07-31-2019, 04:22 AM

The answer is a ruler over stream?

Huinesoron · 07-31-2019, 06:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urwen

The answer is a ruler over stream?

What, you've not heard of the Narrow Bridge of the Petty-Dwarves, marked every inch to allow them to determine the exact speed of their crossing? I think it's from HoME XIII: The Weird Bits.

No, the answer is not a ruler over a stream. Nor was Bilbo telling Gollum about a blue- and green-skinned couple comparing each other's eyes.

Here are some questions that might run through my head if I was seeing this riddle for the first time:

-What coin would you have four of? Why would you add one or two? One or two what?
-What's a ruler? How do you make a ruler? Why would you have three? Is the third one 'over stream' from the other two?
-What do York and Lancaster have in common? What's the connection to a horse?
-Who is the helper? Who or what did they hope for? Is the dream literal?
-Are there any elements in my answers to the above that string together to point at one person, place, or thing in Middle-earth?

hS

Urwen · 07-31-2019, 07:54 AM

Well, you can have four quarters. The ruler is made by crowning them.

07-31-2019, 03:32 AM	#2
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Then I don't understand. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-31-2019, 03:35 AM	#3
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Although I'd say.....it's Sam. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-31-2019, 04:22 AM	#5
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	The answer is a ruler over stream? __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

07-31-2019, 07:54 AM	#7
Urwen Spirit of Nen Lalaith Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: Meneltarma Posts: 5,408	Well, you can have four quarters. The ruler is made by crowning them. __________________ Tuor: Yeah, it was me who broke [Morleg's] arm. With a wrench. Specifically, this wrench. I am suffering from Maeglinomaniacal Maeglinophilia.

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07-31-2019, 04:17 AM	#4
Huinesoron Overshadowed Eagle Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: The north-west of the Old World, east of the Sea Posts: 3,960	It's not Sam. Consider each line separately (ignore 'and you' at the end of 3, that's just the start of line 4). Try to come up with an answer that works for every line. Consider that I have included both cryptic portions pointing at the precise name, and thematic (I guess) pieces talking about characteristics of the answer. hS