Fall of Gondolin

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

If Anguirel was indeed looted, then I wish I could get my hands on it, or at least a model of it. An everlasting reminder of M[a]eglin.

WAIT WAIT WAIT HEADCANON.

Orcrist, Glamdring, and by assumption Sting, were Thingol's weapons. They would have been in the Tower when it fell, and been looted by the Orcs who were swarming below.

Anguirel, though, fell with Maeglin from the walls of the city, down into the fire. It would have been destroyed - were it not for someone rescuing it.

Hmm. Do we know anyone who's able to walk through fire and not get burned? Say, someone who has enough independence to go looting during a big battle - and maybe enough to flee the wreck of Beleriand, rather than stay and die at Morgoth's side? Someone who shows up later with a sword that glows with a fierce, fiery light, so bright that it seems to be burning?

It came to the edge of the fire and the light faded as if a cloud had bent over it. Then with a rush it leaped across the fissure. The flames roared up to greet it, and wreathed about it; and a black smoke swirled in the air. Its streaming mane kindled, and blazed behind it. In its right hand was a blade like a stabbing tongue of fire; in its left it held a whip of many thongs.

'Ai! ai!' wailed Legolas. 'A Balrog! A Balrog is come!'

Nah... it couldn't be...

... could it?

(And if it is, then ultimately the sword of the Betrayer of Gondolin meets its end at the blade of the sword of Turgon. Anguirel versus Glamdring: a battle six thousand years in the making!)

hS

[Urwen]

Originally Posted by Huinesoron

Nah... it couldn't be...

... could it?

(And if it is, then ultimately the sword of the Betrayer of Gondolin meets its end at the blade of the sword of Turgon. Anguirel versus Glamdring: a battle six thousand years in the making!)

hS

That seems....oddly fitting.

[Urwen]

What about Anglachel/Gurthang, though?


Every person it came into contact with died (Eol, Beleg, Turin and Thingol). But what if they weren't the last ones? What if it found its way into Blackheart's black heart?



There are some hints that this might be the case.



Like......


MORGOTH: I am all powerful!


[The darkness clears and Turin, clad in unbreakable armor made by Aule himself steps forth]


TURIN: I've come to settle things at last


GURTHANG: Or rather, we've come to settle things at last.


TURIN: Remember me, Morgy? I've come to avenge my family.


GURTHANG: I have similar goals in mind......

[Urwen]

Do you think that M[a]eglin could have been redeemed if there was someone who loved him in secret and revealed it?

[Huinesoron]

Originally Posted by Urwen

What about Anglachel/Gurthang, though?

Every person it came into contact with died (Eol, Beleg, Turin and Thingol). But what if they weren't the last ones? What if it found its way into Blackheart's black heart?

Originally Posted by Urwen

Do you think that M[a]eglin could have been redeemed if there was someone who loved him in secret and revealed it?

... are you literally sitting behind me reading over my shoulder?

Because I've included variants on both these points in my brand new, somewhat parodaic fic: The Love of a Good Woman.

^_^

hS

[Urwen]

.....you made me feel pity for Morgoth of all people.....


What do you have to say for yourself?

[Urwen]

Would you read my stories in turn?

[Ivriniel]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Do you think that M[a]eglin could have been redeemed if there was someone who loved him in secret and revealed it?

I've grown more forgiving of Maeglin as I age. Yes, it got disturbing with his stalking of Turgon's lineage. But I recall Maeglin was also described as pretty stalwart, when facing Morgoth, a Vala.

I wonder then, had Turgon been less absurdly vengeful in throwing Eol off the cliffs, as punishment for the death, then Maeglin before Morgoth in that 'Fan Fiction' should have had more emotional reserves to hold his own.

No doubt, hatred simmering, and a pretty immutable Turgon, with a city of such isolation, and protectionism, must have had it's cost on loyalty. Eol, I imagine, taught Maeglin that the Noldor stole lands, took power, and displaced his own kind. Maeglin, also knowing of the Kinslaying, must have had his loyalties eroded, due to that.

[Urwen]

I came upon an interesting topic while browsing the forums. Do you think it would be easier for Idril, Tuor and co. to undermine him via political means and thus render him essentially powerless? Making him lose everything would have been far better pf a punishment than killing him, and more poetic too.

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Urwen

I came upon an interesting topic while browsing the forums. Do you think it would be easier for Idril, Tuor and co. to undermine him via political means and thus render him essentially powerless? Making him lose everything would have been far better pf a punishment than killing him, and more poetic too.

I think a possible downside of that strategy would have been Maeglin cottoning onto what they were about, and taking some proactive measures of his own.

Also: political intrigue? Speeches? Filibusters? Mr. Tuor Goes To Gondolin