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Old 04-18-2019, 09:06 AM   #1
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If time-travel existed in Middle Earth, so many issues could be fixed and many characters would have a happy ending.


Come to think of it, will the Valar allow their family to exist again? He is their chosen champion, the one who would destroy Morgoth once and for all during the final battle of the world. Surely they would allow his family to live together with him as his reward for getting rid of the No.1 Enemy of Arda?
I almost wonder if Turin is the one to finally defeat Morgoth because he has the most hate and rage against the guy. Was there anyone else that Morgoth messed up as badly? Who hated him as much?

I like to imagine Turin defeating him not so much by his strength as by the power of his fury and his despair, finally turned directly against the cause of his misery and enemy he has tried to oppose all his life...
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Old 04-18-2019, 10:13 AM   #2
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I almost wonder if Turin is the one to finally defeat Morgoth because he has the most hate and rage against the guy. Was there anyone else that Morgoth messed up as badly? Who hated him as much?

I like to imagine Turin defeating him not so much by his strength as by the power of his fury and his despair, finally turned directly against the cause of his misery and enemy he has tried to oppose all his life...
Yesssss! Feel the hatred! Let it flow through you, and your journey to the Dark Side will be complete!
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Old 04-18-2019, 11:18 AM   #3
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Yesssss! Feel the hatred! Let it flow through you, and your journey to the Dark Side will be complete!
Hahaha!!!!

But can you imagine Turin killing Morgoth out of patience and forgiveness?
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Old 04-19-2019, 03:15 AM   #4
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Two things just occurred to me.


1. Eol would have a hand in Morgoth's final death. He, after all, made the very sword that would kill Morgoth in the end.
2. I think Grima and Maeglin are more similar than Gollum and Maeglin, as both are evil chancellors who betrayed their King.
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Old 04-19-2019, 10:04 AM   #5
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Old 04-19-2019, 12:14 PM   #6
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Here are the couple of tales I wrote for Silm: https://archiveofourown.org/users/Cr...ndom_id=230931
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Old 04-23-2019, 06:52 AM   #7
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2. I think Grima and Maeglin are more similar than Gollum and Maeglin, as both are evil chancellors who betrayed their King.
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And both were bribed with the promise of an (unwilling) princess
That's true. But we don't know much about how Grima came to be who he was, as opposed to the other two whose journey to the "dark side" is well described. Do we know how Grima came to his high position, and to his betrayal? Presumably Grima had to get in contact with Saruman before he set Eowyn as the price for his betrayal. Likewise for Maeglin - but we know more of that story.


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That's true. But we don't know much about how Grima came to be who he was, as opposed to the other two whose journey to the "dark side" is well described. Do we know how Grima came to his high position, and to his betrayal? Presumably Grima had to get in contact with Saruman before he set Eowyn as the price for his betrayal. Likewise for Maeglin - but we know more of that story.

I think it happened in the similar. Imagine someone who got a short end of the stick. Imagine there was only one person who had really shown them kindness. You get the picture.
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