Riddles in the Downs

[Huinesoron]

Okay, I'm now thinking islands, so:

NUMENOR. The Edain (and specifically Ar-Pharazon) considers Numenor, but turns to Melkorism, while longing for the Undying Lands. The island ultimately destroyed the light it was given, while its people overwhelmed all their foes, and its Downfall is not the End of Days. Numenor as a kingdom is its own master, which does not bargain with its enemies - and yeah, it comes, and goes.

Or...

FASTITOCALON, for basically the same reasons. ^_^ "Ah! foolish folk, who land on HIM!"

hS

[Galadriel55]

Not an island - but another good idea.

Think of this. Places and things that define places usually can't come and go. Numenor can be explained that way, but the answer is inland. What else cqme and went, unexpectedly?

[Urwen]

Balrog of Moria certainly came and went unexpectedly.


So did Shelob.


And neither one is technically a person.....


Or Watcher in the Water, who swallowed the light by shutting it out via door drop, and nearly swallowed Frodo.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Balrog of Moria certainly came and went unexpectedly.


So did Shelob.


And neither one is technically a person.....


Or Watcher in the Water, who swallowed the light by shutting it out via door drop, and nearly swallowed Frodo.

I told you it's more of a place than an individual creature by any name. Not a person or person-like thing.

[Galadriel55]

Also, think of when parley could have been happening.

[Urwen]

I am running out of ideas.


Barad-Dur?

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by Urwen

Barad-Dur?

No. You want something with a will of its own, not something with Sauron's will.

Originally Posted by Urwen

I am running out of ideas.

Ok. How about: come and go means it comes to a different location, not just appears and disappears on the time scale? What is a feature of a place/setting that unexpectedly changes LOCATION?