Werewolf CXII - Dueling Wizards III - The Living Thread

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

I'm beginning to suspect Loslote, which has surprised me somewhat because I liked her posts on Day 1.

Go back to the Nerwen/Inzil spat - I had to read this 3 times (and get Cailin to explain it to me ) before I understood what the issue was. It seemed very minor to me. Yet Loslote picked up on (post #186) and repeated the term 'slip' in a non-committal way. Also, she criticises Inzil for voting Nerwen with no justification (I agree, but he's not the only one with a vapid Day 1 vote) and focusing on game mechanics (also something which many of us have done today and yesterday).

Then (post #197), it's pretty minor but there's just something about it - she returns to the attack on Inzil but seems to balance it out by 'feeling better about Nog' at the same time. 'Wouldn't mind voting for Zil today" indeed. I dunno - it's just the first time so far I've read something and thought there might be something behind it.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Eomer of the Rohirrim

Go back to the Nerwen/Inzil spat - I had to read this 3 times (and get Cailin to explain it to me ) before I understood what the issue was. It seemed very minor to me.

Now can someone please explain it to me too. I have read it 2 times and I still didn't see Zil saying anything weird.

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Of those who did not vote in the end (but participated) Nerwen is kind of a hard one to say: she has her own timezone quite afar from others and her not appearing at the DL is not unusual – she was quite vague with her attitude towards the no-lynch policy though so that + not voting might be a nice lay-low tactics.

You mean, Nerwen never votes on Day1 anyway.

Originally Posted by Lottie

He also kept a lower profile on Day 1 than some others, though - he didn't actually vote, I don't think, and kept out of the actual fray for the most part.

That could be considered fishy, but given that he loudly advocated no lynch on Day1 it's not half as shady as you make it sound.

I'd like to go to bed soon, and avoid the voing chaos this time, so I'm gonna vote soon. And please everyone, remember to keep track of the general situation before you vote, we don't want another tie. That novel you want to write to back up your vote can wait until you've voted. You don't want to crosspost with everyone, trust me.


edit: xed with the last trio

[Thinlómien]

Eönwë -

1) good. That makes sense.

2) let's not debate this now when the dl is in an hour and a bit but rather during the first half of toMorrow.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Eönwë -

1) good. That makes sense.

2) let's not debate this now when the dl is in an hour and a bit but rather during the first half of toMorrow.

Yes, but for my second post what I was getting at was that for toNight, both people should vote for toDay's lynchee (so we don't have a wasted Night on that thread).

[Thinlómien]

Innocent
Legate and Mithalwen - seem like their normal innocent selves, haven't said anything particularly eyebrow-raising.
Eomer - he rubs me the wrong way with everything he says, so it is as it should be. The way he commented on the Nerwen-Inzil spat sounded very genuine and innocent to me too.

Idk
Boro and Lottie - yesterDay was weird. I would like to wait at least one more Day and see. But Boro is certainly fishier than Lottie and seems to have a death wish, so out of the two I'd vote for him again.
Lalaith - she's hard to read.
Nogrod - aka the advocate of the dead I initially thought his tone was off but it's been getting better. I'm watching him but wouldn't like to lynch him yet.
Brinniel and Shasta and Sally - they are all under my radar atm, will need to pay more attention toMorrow.
Pervencia - where is she (again)?

Suspicious
Nerwen and Zil - I don't like the way the spat escalated, it actually made me think of those times two wolves thought it would be "logical" to suspect each other and went for it and nobody who was actually innocent thought it was logical.
Eönwë - it's maybe not the fairest or best of arguments, but he'd have been a very logical wolf convert pick. Has been markedly guarded toDay and continues to talk about the dead thread which is useful (I really appreciate someone trying to work out a system, I do!) but also conveninetly something else than finding wolves/EW, which is especially bad this late.

edit: xed with all

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Eönwë - it's maybe not the fairest or best of arguments, but he'd have been a very logical wolf convert pick. Has been markedly guarded toDay and continues to talk about the dead thread which is useful (I really appreciate someone trying to work out a system, I do!) but also conveninetly something else than finding wolves/EW, which is especially bad this late.

I've mostly just been trying to iron out the flaws and make it clear in case I end up dying toDay/toNight.

You do have a point though - I have been thinking a lot more about that than I should be, at the expense of working out who I actually think is suspicious.

edit: whoa, new page! x-ed with a few.

[Pervinca Took]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

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Pervencia -
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Here. But about to succumb to exhaustion.

Can someone tell me the voting deadline in Greenwich Mean Time?

[Lalaith]

Hey, Pervinca, welcome! Deadline is about 1 hour and 15 minutes from now. I am at GMT +1 and it's 23.48 where I am. Deadline is 1 am my time. Hope that helps.

You need to vote for someone you suspect and want to be lynched (if you like!) and highlight it so it comes up red (like I almost didn't remember to do last night ) , with ++ before the name.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

That could be considered fishy, but given that he loudly advocated no lynch on Day1 it's not half as shady as you make it sound.

I didn't mean it to seem shady, I just meant that of the people advocating for no lynch, he was probably least likely to face scrutiny the next Day, which might have made him a more appealing person to turn. Again, all wild speculation.

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Now can someone please explain it to me too. I have read it 2 times and I still didn't see Zil saying anything weird.

Basically, I think it's the bit I bolded below:

Originally Posted by Inziladun

x/d with the Mod- so the EW and wolves might have had some benefit to going after a possible GW Morsul- except they didn't have this clarification at that time.

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

Basically, I think it's the bit I bolded below:

But, they didn't??? Unless they asked privately?? And it would be far more of a stretch to assume they did than that they didn't, if you ask me. I would have jumped to the same conclusion as Zil did. *side-eyes Nerwen (and Lottie a bit too)*


edit: xed with Kuru and afraid I've been on the misspell train too!

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

But, they didn't??? Unless they asked privately?? And it would be far more of a stretch to assume they did than that they didn't, if you ask me. I would have jumped to the same conclusion as Zil did. *side-eyes Nerwen (and Lottie a bit too)*

I was more interested in the defensive tone than the actual slip - I saw the point Nerwen was trying to make, and I didn't know that I for sure bought it, but he acted way more defensively than I would have expected for such a small thing, which was what I picked up on.

I'm headed home from work, but I should be back before DL, so I'm not going to vote yet.

[Mithalwen]

I know she hasn't been posting but it maybe would be nice to get Pervinca's name right..

[Eönwë]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

I know she hasn't been posting but it maybe would be nice to get Pervinca's name right..

You're right, of course. I just copied Kuru's list.

[Kuruharan]

Originally Posted by Eönwë

You're right, of course. I just copied Kuru's list.

Oh.

Have I been getting her name wrong?

[Mithalwen]

It is listed as Pervencia.

[Kuruharan]

Ooops.

I'll fix that.

[Nogrod]

Just looking at Eönwe's plan makes me more confident about not even thinking about that kind of a "deal". There's everything to go wrong and be misinterpreted.

Also it ties the hands of people in the Dead thread, making being there totally redundant (there can be situations where it would be more crucial to know someone else's than the "oldest" residents role)- or nauseatingly infuriating when things even can't go like "decided" (like there are several kills at a time and then there is no communication at all as to which one is checked).

Unless the game ends very suddenly and fast, most of us are going to be there and wouldn't you like to play as well after death? The Dead can't pass any reliable information - as facts to be used in proofs -but they see more. And well you'll be there soon too with all your wits and capabilities of organizing things and seeing what is the best for the villagers you have here in the living thread - but then you will be empowered with lots of other stuff as well the living here have no clue.

The reasonable way - to me - would be that the Dead play the game there and sort things out as best they can and then empower a vote for anyone who is to them the most suspicious-looking. And trust me - "been there, done that" - when you get there yourself, you understand what I mean. If the game lasts any longer than a few Days, the actual game will be there, not here.

Okay. End of my rant. Sorry.

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Now can someone please explain it to me too. I have read it 2 times and I still didn't see Zil saying anything weird.

x/d with the Mod- so the EW and wolves might have had some benefit to going after a possible GW Morsul- except they didn't have this clarification at that time.~Inzil #158

It comes off as Inzil saying he knows for sure the EW and wolves were not aware of the question whether the GW would be revealed if the EW/wolves tried to kill the GW.

Nerwen asks later how Inzil knows this...for myself it's not the possible "slip" itself, but the posts and reactions afterwards.

Inzil 176:

Ahem. Because Kuru just said it toDay?

Inzil 177:

And yes, I know the baddies could have asked Kuru themselves, but I don't think it likely.

Nerwen's response 178:

Actually, I'd have thought it very likely... and you were so certain a moment ago...

[Boromir88]

I accidentally hit enter and didn't finish the explanation...

Inzil 180:

Ah. There's Eeevill afoot.

This one in particular just reads as he's trying to sweep it under the table as an innocent/harmless joke.

As I said though, appearances aren't always what they seem.

And then the digging in on the Nerwen vote/suspicions when pressed for why...

So yes, not the possible letting slip to knowing what the EW/wolves knew or didn't know, but just the responses after make it look worse for Inzil.