Prince Imrahil and his mortality

[cellurdur]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

cellurdur, I'd address your points and all that, but... there's this:

This entire thread has been about Mithrellas and the implications of Imrahil's possible descent from her. Were you by any chance meaning to post in the Dior thread?

And Galin, belated thanks for the birthday wishes!

Unless someone moved my post I am sure my post WAS IN the Dior thread. It seems you accidentally quoted my Dior post in this thread.

Other points that support my argument is that Turin, Tuor and Aragorn were all raised amongst elves. It's true they had the necessary genes to resemble Elves, but Men resembling elves is more than just genes. The Numenorean's at their zenith became virtually indistinguishable from Elves and Tolkien put this down to untainted land of Numenor and the Elvish lifestyle they adapted too.

I would imagine it's a very similar, but to far lesser extent case with Imrahil. Dol Amroth recently had Elves live there. They more than anyone else in Gondor probably still adhere to Elvish way of life. Hence why Imrahil has such a close resemblance to an Elf, but Boromir and Faramir do not.

[Nerwen]

Originally Posted by cellurdur

Unless someone moved my post I am sure my post WAS IN the Dior thread. It seems you accidentally quoted my Dior post in this thread.

It's the post I was replying to- #23 in this thread. So I'm not sure what's happened.

[Ivriniel]

Galador also had a sister, Gilmith (Starmist) and so, we also do not know how 'half-elfy' Dol Amroth's people became because of transmission of Efly-ness from Gilmith'sdescendants.

I'm not sure the Choice of the Peredhil was available to Galador, and I've argued elsewhere that, because Imrazor was of Numenorean heritage, we are after the era after the Decree of Mandos.

Some limit the Choice of the Perdhil soley to the children of Elrond, due to the wording citing Mandos. I've always seen the decrees symbolically, not quite as literally as worded, and about the unions of the two races. So, for example, we don't know that Gilmith chose the Edain.

Imrazor, was fairly controlling a male, I seem to recall, in the mythology where Mithrellas seemed more like a prisoner or captive of him. Some say this means Gilmith was unlikely to choose Elvendom, but I do not think this follows. As a rebelling daughter, (presumably like any teen, and repelling a pushy father), she may well have found her way to the Elven peoples in the lands around.

Fast forwards - Imrahil and generations on.

It seemed to me very unlikely that after the many generations from Mithrellas that Imrahil should have been as 'Elvish' as he obviously seemed. What was it I read somewhere about the 'Elvishness' being about Imrahil not growing a beard (anyone have any ideas?)

However - my reading is that it was unlikely he had the Choice of the Peredhil available to him. I also am not fully convinced his line ever did - but mostly convinced.

This seems all very Half-Elven Foundation-ish.....