Ten Year Anniversary Game: Living Thread

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by mormegil

Is this what you are thinking:

If:
morm is a wolf give vote to Form or McCaber
Form is a wolf give vote to morm or Lommy
Kath is a wolf give vote to Eomer or Mith
Mith is a wolf give vote to Kath or Shasta
McCaber is a wolf give vote to Boro
No dreams on this list as wolf give vote to Sally

That spreads it out and I'm willing to give Boro the single vote as well as it's known that he's at least not a wolf though his motivations are unclear.

Not really, we need to be able to figure out if someone is innocent as well.

Rather:

If morm is innocent, give an extra vote to morm
If morm is guilty, give an extra vote to Sally
If Form is innocent, give an extra vote to Form
If Form is guilty, give an extra vote to Lommy
If Kath is innocent, give an extra vote to Kath
If Kath is guilty, give an extra vote to Eomer
If Mith is innocent, give an extra vote to Mith
If Mith is guilty, give an extra vote to Shasta
If McCaber is innocent, don't give an extra vote
If McCaber is guilty, give an extra vote to Boro
If the village is screwing up or there's something else alarming such as Boro being a wolf (we can clarify this the next Day if needs be), give an extra vote to McCaber


Also, Kuru the God, can you tell us:

What happens if the dead reach a tie when voting for whom to empower?
If the dead abstain from voting, will we be told?

[Thinlómien]

PS. I know my voting scheme is not perfect, but I can't think of a better one. We give the dead a lot of power to randomly affect the lynch, but personally I don't mind as we're lynching one of the great unknowns - Form, morm, Mith, Kath or McCaber - anyway (or??) and at this point I don't really care whom because I don't have very much idea who the remaining wolves are. Mean but pragmatic.

[Thinlómien]

Also just saying that the panic button can't be not empowering anyone because that's an option one wolf in the dead thread (for example Lottie who has nothing to lose anymore) can mess up.

[satansaloser2005]

Posting to remind myself that Eomer asked me a question of sorts and I need to respond to it. If he could clarify what he means (as I can't go back through the thread), that would be lovely. I'll return in a bit over four hours, and am unlikely to check the thread again before then, sorry.

[Thinlómien]

Posting to remind people we should decide about the dead thread communication asap. If no better suggestion emerges I will be reading their vote according to my scheme above. (Assuming I'm alive, which I should be.)

Currently the most suspicious about morm. He has seemed quite innocent so far, but recently he's been giving me the vibe of a wolf who feels the tide turning against him. Notably in his way to ignore what Nerwen said about Eomer, Shasta and me, and proposing a play-it-safe yet fairly uninformative voting scheme. Granted, especially the latter might just seem fishy to me because he and I have (and have always had ) a very different way of thinking, but he's the only one that's ringing my alarms atm.

I still think Form mostly seems like a confused innocent and Mith seems pretty good too, as does McCaber. Kath is a big question mark.

I hope Nerwen & the other dead let us know if they have reason to believe Boro is pulling our leg, and that we leave the option open for them to do so.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Posting to remind myself that Eomer asked me a question of sorts and I need to respond to it. If he could clarify what he means (as I can't go back through the thread), that would be lovely. I'll return in a bit over four hours, and am unlikely to check the thread again before then, sorry.

You listed McCaber as innocent yesterday; just wondering if you still feel that way.

For what it's worth, my feeling right now is that Mithalwen is innocent - though that's based on tone of posts rather than anything else. Need to go back and check her posts. Leaning toward lynching Morm or Kath today. Agree mostly with Lommy's summary of Nerwen's dream-activity plus her criticism of Morm's unwillingness to acknowledge the simplest (and surely only reasonable) conclusion as to which living villagers were dreamt of and found innocent of wolvery.

Am still flip-flopping on Form.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by Morm

Here's the problem with that and something I keep coming back to, she said don't vote for them today but never did she indicate innocence.

The Seer telling you "don't vote these people" doesn't indicate innocence?



In any case, Boro is beginning to worry me. I'm aware you've been killing wolves, Boro, but with the way you've been talking about your role I'm starting to wonder if it's even possible for you to win with the village.

I agree with those that think morm's unwillingness to acknowledge my soul's fire and her dreams; I think Lommy pretty much tied it up with her recent analysis. As far as Mith goes, I honestly don't have much of a read on her but what I do have makes me lean innocent on her, I think.

I half wonder if we shouldn't ask the dead thread a simple question, like how many wolves are in the dead thread right now? Like -

If it's 1, give Lommy the extra vote
If it's 2, give Shasta the extra vote
If it's 3, give Eomer the extra vote
If it's 4, give Mith the extra vote
If it's 5, give Boro the extra vote
If it's 6, give McCaber the extra vote

- or something like that. Thoughts?

[Mithalwen]

But would they know definitively? And they cant tell us who. Seems like a lowish priority compared to knowing a firmly identified wolf. I suppose there is no chance of anyone returning from dead? I am a bit puzzled that Nerwen's body wasn't found since the Seer doesn't come back from the dead.

Given that time is creeping on for the Eastern bloc may be we should firm up the strategy soonish.

[Eomer of the Rohirrim]

Unless I'm missing something, Shasta, they won't have that information.

[mormegil]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

I agree with those that think morm's unwillingness to acknowledge my soul's fire and her dreams;

I'm a bit frustrated at this because I think you are all missing something. First, Nerwen never stated she was the seer. She implied it and I believe her. However, she only indicated dead people were wolves or innocent. She never definitively stated that any on that list were innocent. I'm encouraging skepticism that everyone on the list is a known innocent. She never came out and said it, why? She knew that she was likely going to get killed at night, it's frustrating that she didn't reveal everything she knows, so we've spent the whole day arguing about that and about trying to come up with some way for the dead to communicate with us. A plan was proposed a few hours ago and has been since rehashed and delayed by other...why? It's getting very late for our dead to organize this and it's because of a delay. Please notice Shasta that on my list I proposed hours ago, I had the list that Nerwen thought. Did you intentionally miss that?

I encourage skepticism of Boro and I'm glad you at least are seeing this, why can't you see that we ought not to give a free pass to those who were not stated empirically as innocent by Nerwen.

I still vote for my plan for the dead to vote but I'm sure it will be delayed and rehashed so that we come up with nothing solid again...congrats wolves a minor victory in your corner toDay.