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Old 06-06-2015, 04:46 PM   #1
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But didn't she deny killing you? She confessed to killing me. So she couldn't have killed you, if she isn't lying (which, of course, she could... I find this whole "now I'm gonna tell you villagers who killed who" very illogical in this game where the main advantage of WWs is that there is no info at all).
How much reason (sorry if I missed something, I haven't been reading 100% carefully) did Lottie have to kill you, anyway?
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How much reason (sorry if I missed something, I haven't been reading 100% carefully) did Lottie have to kill you, anyway?
Um... because she thought I was the Seer? I mean look at it, even some innocents thought I was the Seer because I was being so steadfast in going after Greenie (even before she died) - especially since not very many people suspected her? Isn't thinking that I am a Seer enough of a reason for a Wolf to kill me?
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Old 06-06-2015, 05:03 PM   #3
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Um... because she thought I was the Seer? I mean look at it, even some innocents thought I was the Seer because I was being so steadfast in going after Greenie (even before she died) - especially since not very many people suspected her? Isn't thinking that I am a Seer enough of a reason for a Wolf to kill me?
Lottiewolf had more reason to think I was the seer. Even though she might have noticed that you were going after Greenie seerishly and thought Greenie was in the other pack, I would certainly have been a more immediate danger to her own pack.
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I mean, if she had us both on her potential-seer list. Killing you would have been less urgent, since your one "wolf", if you did have one, was "in the other pack".
And she'd absolutely want to throw the village off her pack's trail. Why on earth would she give an accurate confession?
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Couldn't Lottie just mess around while being devastated of being blown out? I mean putting the kills in the wrong order - and if really against Firefoot (aka thinking her a wolf from the rival pack) that would be also annoying to Firefoot?

I mean that's how we people are, irrational in times and being fex. accused of killing someone you thought was a bad idea while you were - in your own mind at least - being really clever, and now are in risk of looking like a clumsy one - or something? No, I don't have any evidence for the "intelligence of the kills", but just reminding we might have other reasons here besides purely tactical ones...
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I suppose Lottie could lie about spotting Legate in order to hide legate's likely dreams (Nerwen/Lommy/Mith) because one or more is in Lottie's pack...
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I suppose Lottie could lie about spotting Legate in order to hide legate's likely dreams (Nerwen/Lommy/Mith) because one or more is in Lottie's pack...
Lommy seems to turn out from behind several different corners...
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Old 06-06-2015, 05:20 PM   #8
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And Lommy again.

"Seer"!me went after her, "seer"!Legate protected her.
Conveying Greenie's role could actually be quite useful after all.

And why is everyone believing the wolf...????

So, tentatively...

Loslote, Lommy, ????

Mac, ????, ????

If the Macpack killed Legate as a potential seer, presumably Mith and Nerwen aren't in it.

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Old 06-06-2015, 05:22 PM   #9
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Definitely want to scry Legate.
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Some open cross-tables could be of use here.

I'm not even imagining of making any as I'm finally going to sleep at a half-decent time, but if you tp or Rikae have something like tables done already would you mind sharing them?

And good night and good luck...
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Lottiewolf had more reason to think I was the seer. Even though she might have noticed that you were going after Greenie seerishly and thought Greenie was in the other pack, I would certainly have been a more immediate danger to her own pack.
Aah, okay. You totally lost me there before. Well, I am still a bit lost: just the part, why did you think Lottie would think you-Seer would be more dangerous to her pack than me-Seer?

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I suppose Lottie could lie about spotting Legate in order to hide legate's likely dreams (Nerwen/Lommy/Mith) because one or more is in Lottie's pack...
Yeah, that's definitely also a good possibility! Actually fairly likely. Although again, that wouldn't last after the real Seer reveals. (Of course, unless that Seer would be - from Lottie's pov - Rikae, who is safely dead.)
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Old 06-06-2015, 05:30 PM   #12
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No tactical reason for me not to vote Shasta, correct?

(just assuming Nilp doesn't last minute reveal as Seer and they interpret our Shasta vote as disbelief, ha ha)

edit: never mind Agan voted anyway
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My pack killed Rune and Legate (I would like to take the credit for figuring out that Legate was likely the Seer, thank you, I was pretty pleased with that. Can't believe he got the info out anyway)
She doesn't say how, though.

Just looking through Legate's posts, Seer-Legate mostly points toward wolf-Greenie. In fact, it strongly looks like she was the only wolf he dreamed of - he sets her apart from everyone else, consistently.
Perhaps Lottie is betting we didn't scry Greenie (or that she was in the other pack).

Now, that leaves the question... who killed Mac and Legate? I mean, assuming Mac isn't in Lottie's pack, and knowing Greenie is innocent.

Perhaps Firefoot (and Mac) killing Legate, assuming he was a seer about to dream her and that Greenie was in the other pack?

Special role killing Mac of course makes sense.
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