Tol-in-Guarhoth CIX - Ten Year Anniversary Game: Dead Thread

[A Little Green]

What the actual ??? For now I'm leaning towards thinking Nerwen is telling the truth - am I the only one who thinks making up something like that would be a pretty unsporting thing to do? Unless of course she's the Seer herself and tries in this way to avoid getting butchered next Night.

Originally Posted by Agan

Conclusion: you should just listen to Greenie and me.

Yes, because you've already set such a great example of how innocents can't be wrong. *cough*

[Rikae]

Well, I feel stupid for trusting Mac, anyway.

If Nerwen does get night-killed she can tell us if she was gambling or not (and if she's resurrected we'll know we can believe her). Much as I'd like to scry Mac, it might end up being redundant.

[the phantom]

Yeah, it could be she's just the Seer and is trying to avoid the Night kill, but at the same time it might encourage the Ranger not to protect her.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Rikae

If Nerwen does get night-killed she can tell us if she was gambling or not (and if she's resurrected we'll know we can believe her). Much as I'd like to scry Mac, it might end up being redundant.

I agree. I guess we'll have to wait and see who they end up lynching, although barring further reveals (nothing will surprise me at this point) they'd be a bit foolish not to go for Lottie.

As for Nerwen being Sally's lover - I guess it's possible (was this the plan Sally was talking about?) but I'm not sure why Sally would reveal as a lover and Nerwen come forward with that information right after. The lovers can PM also during the Day (right?) and so if Nerwen is a lover I'm guessing she would have told her lover about it first. And I don't know, having both of them come forward in that way, right after each other, seems awfully risky to me. Unless there's some obvious tactical advantage I'm missing?

Also, what's with Sally's conviction that Rune was killed for looking like a rival wolf? Now I'm supposed to have wanted to kill him for whatever reason, and that's why Agan shifted her pick to me? Wow. I hope this is a part of whatever plot she's hatching with her lover because otherwise it doesn't make any sense.

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

As for Nerwen being Sally's lover - I guess it's possible (was this the plan Sally was talking about?) but I'm not sure why Sally would reveal as a lover and Nerwen come forward with that information right after. The lovers can PM also during the Day (right?) and so if Nerwen is a lover I'm guessing she would have told her lover about it first. And I don't know, having both of them come forward in that way, right after each other, seems awfully risky to me. Unless there's some obvious tactical advantage I'm missing?

All I can think of is that if Nerwen gets killed toNight, Sally can be ranger-protected the following night so that Nerwen can return.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I thought there was only one secret role.

Now we have an assassin and one who can deliver seer dreams?

Something is not adding up here.

Actually, personally now thinking about it, it would make sense. Remember how the three of us randomly died, while common sense would expect two people dying? What if we have a "shapeshifter" role who, say, one Night kills a person, one night dreams a person, you know what? (Although to be honest it would still require a lot of over-combining to have a role which dreams two people and then passes the info to somebody else. Then again... actually why not? Because, say that your role says "you can dream 2 people" - that being fairly powerful - "but you have to tell this to somebody else" - i.e. to share it with a random person who, potentially, could be a Wolf??? And then again, the only way that would make sense would be if the info came through from the dead - because otherwise the person could just say it aloud herself... anyone has anything to say about this?)

The options you folks mentioned up here seem a bit more plausible (such as the lover trying to get herself killed-thing)... But who knows. Then again Kuru originally considered to put into the game this kind of "speaker to the dead"-role... this would feel kinda similar.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

What the actual ??? For now I'm leaning towards thinking Nerwen is telling the truth - am I the only one who thinks making up something like that would be a pretty unsporting thing to do?

If you ask me, sporty or not, it actually would be a very Nerwen-y thing to do. But I am not inclined to disbelieve her.

Though also in this game, she could be also just trying to freak the wolves out: there is fairly high percentual chance she'd name at least one Wolf correctly, and the Wolf could think the other person she named is from the opposite pack.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Legate

Though also in this game, she could be also just trying to freak the wolves out: there is fairly high percentual chance she'd name at least one Wolf correctly, and the Wolf could think the other person she named is from the opposite pack.

That would be a rather risky strategy though - what if she named the real Seer, for instance? I don't think an ordo Nerwen would do that just to freak the wolves out.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by A Little Green

That would be a rather risky strategy though - what if she named the real Seer, for instance? I don't think an ordo Nerwen would do that just to freak the wolves out.

Point taken. Well, hard to say.

Btw: not that I can do much with that, being dead, but after just reading the Living thread, if Eomer is not a Wolf, I am going to eat my socks. (*ahem* ... I know the danger this entails.) He is so fishy that Gollum would go all crazy over him.

Anyway, as for the things that we can do, I see no problem in going according to the Firefoot-list and empowering either shasta or Nilp (from my perspective, preferably shasta).

[Nogrod]

Looking at all the complexities of the game - and how kind of rough (read:impossible) the setting has been to the innocents - I'm not actually surprised from anything strange happening, or that even one odd turn of events would be favouring innocents for a change.

So my first reaction is I tend to (or hope to) believe in Nerwen, especially as I think Lottie is one of the best candidates there are (alongside Sally btw. - I'm not that happy to believe her lover-revealment in the first place).

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Looking at all the complexities of the game - and how kind of rough (read:impossible) the setting has been to the innocents - I'm not actually surprised from anything strange happening, or that even one odd turn of events would be favouring innocents for a change.

Exactly my thoughts. If nothing else, it would counterbalance the three kills last Night (okay, even if there is the possibility some of the three of us might have been Wolves, but still, the more dead, the worse for the village in general).

Aaaand I see now quite a few of the Living started voting. I see no problem with doing it the way they are doing it now. So after shasta or Nilp vote, if the vote is reasonable, I see no problem with voting for them as well.

Also for the record, I like Mith, she does not post much, but now her latter posts show she's got all her wits very well together...