Tol-in-Guarhoth CIX - Ten Year Anniversary Game: Dead Thread

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Okay, I have to go and it's possible I won't be able to get back online later, so I guess I can't sit on this any longer. I said I had a particular reason for wanting to hear everyone's opinion's of everyone else, and here it is:

I received a pm telling me that the Seer had dreamed two wolves, Macalaure and Lottie.

It was *not* explained to me why I was being sent this interesting communication, nor can I find anything about it in the rules. Maybe this is a once-off thing (on the Seer's death?), or maybe a different person has been sent dreams each Night. Maybe the Dead are involved, or the mystery role. I honestly have no idea.

I realise I have no way of backing any of this up, and am asking you all to take my word for it, but I do think there's decent circumstantial evidence against both Lottie and Mac.

Wooooooow what's this

[Rikae]

Crossed with Nerwen, obviously...

Well, I can believe a Lottie-wolf, and Mac is certainly not off the menu.

But... such a message would presumably come from the dead, and it obviously doesn't.

Maybe it's some kind of... yeah, palantir-related, evesdropping sort of role.

The thing is, the seer is alive and knows if Nerwen is full of it or not.

[Aganzir]

Options:

1. Everything happened just as Nerwen said, and it's something to do with the mystery role.
2. Nerwen is a clever seer who dreamed Mac and Lottie wolves.
   • If either of these is true, Mac reacted waaay more coolly to Rikae's reveal than I would've expected. Which kind of makes me wonder if they were wolves in the same pack and Rikae used their death to their advantage.
3. Nerwen is a wolf. But what would she gain from doing this? Get the seer to reveal? I need to do some math.
4. Nerwen is the other lover.

Need to go now but will keep checking the thread as well as I can.

[Macalaure]

1. This possible. Though in that case Kuru is leaving us in the dark about so many things... unclear narrations, tons of mystery stuff. Why would he give Nerwen wrong information?
2. I don't think so. Each pack is going to suspect that Lottie and me are wolves from the other pack. She has a target on her back now, this way or another.
3. I agree, hard to believe.
4. This is very possible.

[Macalaure]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

Why would he give Nerwen wrong information?

Wait, I got that wrong. According to Nerwen's claim, Kuru only relayed information to her from someone else. So if she is correct, then that other person is passing on incorrect information. I don't even want start guessing what's behind that.

[A Little Green]

What the actual ??? For now I'm leaning towards thinking Nerwen is telling the truth - am I the only one who thinks making up something like that would be a pretty unsporting thing to do? Unless of course she's the Seer herself and tries in this way to avoid getting butchered next Night.

Originally Posted by Agan

Conclusion: you should just listen to Greenie and me.

Yes, because you've already set such a great example of how innocents can't be wrong. *cough*

[Rikae]

Well, I feel stupid for trusting Mac, anyway.

If Nerwen does get night-killed she can tell us if she was gambling or not (and if she's resurrected we'll know we can believe her). Much as I'd like to scry Mac, it might end up being redundant.

[the phantom]

Yeah, it could be she's just the Seer and is trying to avoid the Night kill, but at the same time it might encourage the Ranger not to protect her.

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Rikae

If Nerwen does get night-killed she can tell us if she was gambling or not (and if she's resurrected we'll know we can believe her). Much as I'd like to scry Mac, it might end up being redundant.

I agree. I guess we'll have to wait and see who they end up lynching, although barring further reveals (nothing will surprise me at this point) they'd be a bit foolish not to go for Lottie.

As for Nerwen being Sally's lover - I guess it's possible (was this the plan Sally was talking about?) but I'm not sure why Sally would reveal as a lover and Nerwen come forward with that information right after. The lovers can PM also during the Day (right?) and so if Nerwen is a lover I'm guessing she would have told her lover about it first. And I don't know, having both of them come forward in that way, right after each other, seems awfully risky to me. Unless there's some obvious tactical advantage I'm missing?

Also, what's with Sally's conviction that Rune was killed for looking like a rival wolf? Now I'm supposed to have wanted to kill him for whatever reason, and that's why Agan shifted her pick to me? Wow. I hope this is a part of whatever plot she's hatching with her lover because otherwise it doesn't make any sense.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I thought there was only one secret role.

Now we have an assassin and one who can deliver seer dreams?

Something is not adding up here.

Actually, personally now thinking about it, it would make sense. Remember how the three of us randomly died, while common sense would expect two people dying? What if we have a "shapeshifter" role who, say, one Night kills a person, one night dreams a person, you know what? (Although to be honest it would still require a lot of over-combining to have a role which dreams two people and then passes the info to somebody else. Then again... actually why not? Because, say that your role says "you can dream 2 people" - that being fairly powerful - "but you have to tell this to somebody else" - i.e. to share it with a random person who, potentially, could be a Wolf??? And then again, the only way that would make sense would be if the info came through from the dead - because otherwise the person could just say it aloud herself... anyone has anything to say about this?)

The options you folks mentioned up here seem a bit more plausible (such as the lover trying to get herself killed-thing)... But who knows. Then again Kuru originally considered to put into the game this kind of "speaker to the dead"-role... this would feel kinda similar.

Originally Posted by A Little Green

What the actual ??? For now I'm leaning towards thinking Nerwen is telling the truth - am I the only one who thinks making up something like that would be a pretty unsporting thing to do?

If you ask me, sporty or not, it actually would be a very Nerwen-y thing to do. But I am not inclined to disbelieve her.

Though also in this game, she could be also just trying to freak the wolves out: there is fairly high percentual chance she'd name at least one Wolf correctly, and the Wolf could think the other person she named is from the opposite pack.