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Old 06-06-2015, 10:46 AM   #1
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Okay, I have to go and it's possible I won't be able to get back online later, so I guess I can't sit on this any longer. I said I had a particular reason for wanting to hear everyone's opinion's of everyone else, and here it is:

I received a pm telling me that the Seer had dreamed two wolves, Macalaure and Lottie.

It was *not* explained to me why I was being sent this interesting communication, nor can I find anything about it in the rules. Maybe this is a once-off thing (on the Seer's death?), or maybe a different person has been sent dreams each Night. Maybe the Dead are involved, or the mystery role. I honestly have no idea.

I realise I have no way of backing any of this up, and am asking you all to take my word for it, but I do think there's decent circumstantial evidence against both Lottie and Mac.
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Old 06-06-2015, 10:52 AM   #2
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Okay, I have to go and it's possible I won't be able to get back online later, so I guess I can't sit on this any longer. I said I had a particular reason for wanting to hear everyone's opinion's of everyone else, and here it is:

I received a pm telling me that the Seer had dreamed two wolves, Macalaure and Lottie.

It was *not* explained to me why I was being sent this interesting communication, nor can I find anything about it in the rules. Maybe this is a once-off thing (on the Seer's death?), or maybe a different person has been sent dreams each Night. Maybe the Dead are involved, or the mystery role. I honestly have no idea.

I realise I have no way of backing any of this up, and am asking you all to take my word for it, but I do think there's decent circumstantial evidence against both Lottie and Mac.
I'm taken a back a bit by this. May we know who sent this message and what the context was?

Why also would you think Lottie and Mac couldn't be wolves? I suspected Mac and have begun to suspect Lottie. Please share anything that will help us know of the validity of this.
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Old 06-06-2015, 10:54 AM   #3
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Why also would you think Lottie and Mac couldn't be wolves? I suspected Mac and have begun to suspect Lottie. Please share anything that will help us know of the validity of this.
My mistake Nerwen. I misread what you said. I thought you were indicating both couldn't be together not both being wolves. I would agree that Lottie could be a wolf.
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Old 06-06-2015, 11:04 AM   #4
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I'm taken a back a bit by this. May we know who sent this message and what the context was?
It came via our mod, of course, but he wouldn't tell me anything more than I've told you already. I really have no idea what it's all about- some secret rule at work, evidently.
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It came via our mod, of course, but he wouldn't tell me anything more than I've told you already. I really have no idea what it's all about- some secret rule at work, evidently.
It makes me wonder if the secret role is a travelling role as has been discussed. Somehow it may have helped kill Mac last night and gave you this info today. It's good to know it came from mod.

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Old 06-06-2015, 11:24 AM   #6
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It makes me wonder if the secret role is a travelling role as has been discussed. Somehow it may have helped kill Mac last night and gave you this info today. It's good to know it came from mod.

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Maybe instead of travelling, the role has something to do with communicating across the threads? It still doesn't explain Mac's death, but if the PM came in the Night rather than the Day it would have had more of an effect on the game because Mac would still have been alive and getting two wolves flushed out would go a long way towards equalizing.
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Old 06-06-2015, 11:42 AM   #7
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Wow. Ok, that is quite something.

There had been a fair bit of suspicion against Loslote and it was certainly building after Rikae's death. Given that, we might well be tempted to just lynch her now as it would seem as if we have little to lose thereby.

But if Nerwen is up to some scheme then we need to think about how such a tactic could benefit her and her pack.

*ponders*
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Wow. Ok, that is quite something.

There had been a fair bit of suspicion against Loslote and it was certainly building after Rikae's death. Given that, we might well be tempted to just lynch her now as it would seem as if we have little to lose thereby.

But if Nerwen is up to some scheme then we need to think about how such a tactic could benefit her and her pack.

*ponders*
Loslote her self said that false reveals were unlikely but would buy the wolves time. Would it buy enough already?
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If what Nerwen says is true. then looking at Legate's lists it rather suggests he wasn't the seer. They don't figure prominently even enough to make them seem like likely dream choices for last night,,,

Morm I don't mind suspicion but was curious why .. you know feelings are all very well but ...
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If what Nerwen says is true. then looking at Legate's lists it rather suggests he wasn't the seer. They don't figure prominently even enough to make them seem like likely dream choices for last night,,,

Morm I don't mind suspicion but was curious why .. you know feelings are all very well but ...
I don't know if they *were* dreamed last Night. As I said, I don't know what is going on or how it works.
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Well, the dead wouldn't have had time to scry Mac yet. ToMorrow I think would be better to work a tie and let the dead choose, but toDay I can't see doing anything other than

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While you're all chewing over this...

If we all (or most of us) vote for Lottie it might actually be possible to follow
Nilp's suggestion for how to arrange the bonus votes. I'llhave to leave organising this to the rest of you, as I'm running out of time and it's very late, or rather early, here.

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Old 06-06-2015, 10:55 AM   #13
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Okay, I have to go and it's possible I won't be able to get back online later, so I guess I can't sit on this any longer. I said I had a particular reason for wanting to hear everyone's opinion's of everyone else, and here it is:

I received a pm telling me that the Seer had dreamed two wolves, Macalaure and Lottie.

It was *not* explained to me why I was being sent this interesting communication, nor can I find anything about it in the rules. Maybe this is a once-off thing (on the Seer's death?), or maybe a different person has been sent dreams each Night. Maybe the Dead are involved, or the mystery role. I honestly have no idea.

I realise I have no way of backing any of this up, and am asking you all to take my word for it, but I do think there's decent circumstantial evidence against both Lottie and Mac.
Well that changes some things. I think at this stage a wolf Nerwen would have no reason to throw that much of a twist, which leads me to think she's being legit.

In which case, I would much rather have sally alive as a confirmed innocent and insurance that her partner has some way to come back.
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Old 06-06-2015, 11:01 AM   #14
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Oh morm, "xem" is a newfangled gender-neutral way of saying him or her.
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Nerwen's revelation: goodness. This IS a turn up for the books. I can't find anything in the rules to explain it either except the 'particular power' of the secret role. Why the third death last night though?
The actual fact of Lottie and Mac being wolves does not seem at all far-fetched, mind you, so I would be willing to trust this revelation for now. Unless of course someone else has something else startling to say before deadline. Bear in mind though, that my RL bedtime is way before deadline so my vote will be early.
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