Tol-in-Guarhoth CIX - Ten Year Anniversary Game: Dead Thread

[the phantom]

Don't have time to more than skim at the moment. Has anyone living or dead pointed out yet that (as I mentioned much earlier) Sally dropped a Lover hint in her very first post of the game and directed it at Nilp?

How likely do you think it is that she put down a false hint on purpose hoping she could get the packs to attack the wrong person? But of course it wouldn't take them long to figure that out, particularly if one of the packs includes Nilp.

Anyway, rather busy at the moment...

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Don't have time to more than skim at the moment. Has anyone living or dead pointed out yet that (as I mentioned much earlier) Sally dropped a Lover hint in her very first post of the game and directed it at Nilp?

Not sure. It could be a hint, but it could also be just sally and Nilp's mutual history. I doubt she'd leave an actual hint when she knew the rules and knew they'd have to keep quiet if they were to fill their role.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Not sure. It could be a hint, but it could also be just sally and Nilp's mutual history. I doubt she'd leave an actual hint when she knew the rules and knew they'd have to keep quiet if they were to fill their role.

Do they have any mutual history?

...in-game, I mean. Given that Nilp hasn't been playing for ages and sally was one of the "newer" generation of players (she joined after me, and I joined ages after Nilp had already disappeared from most games - he played a couple of times since then, though, in some bigger ones, I guess).

Anyway, I think the idea of going with Firefoot's list might not be that bad. Of course unless the person in question votes somebody totally off and we don't want to empower that kind of behavior.

[Aganzir]

Well, given that sally and I started werewolfing around the same time, I've played with Nilp more than once, and sally has played in more games than me, I'm quite sure they have a mutual history.

In any case, let's see what Nerwen says and who Nilp and Shasta vote for before doing anything. And sadly as we don't know your role, Legate, we can't have absolute trust in your honest intentions regarding this vote.

Conclusion: you should just listen to Greenie and me.

[Rikae]

Empowering Shasta or Nilp doesn't mean we trust Shasta or Nilp.

I hope the living abide by the plan of getting their voting out of the way early, so we know how/whether we're influencing the lynch, but unless someone up there decides to change the signals, I will vote for either Nilp or Shasta.

Barring some scenario where, oh, doing so would lynch the seer.

After all, it's not like we have much more information than the living do, at this point. Giving our vote to someone simply because we trust them, and thereby giving false information, when we don't know when/whether anyone is going to visit and straighten things out? No, I won't condone that.

So, Nilp or Shasta it is - and which, for me, depends on how they vote.

I'd actually suggest that those who leave early split their votes between the two, so that the USA can heroically vote at DL having seen Nilp's and Shasta's votes first, but of course that requires ya'all to trust us Americans when we could, after all, all be wolves. It's up to you.

[Aganzir]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Okay, I have to go and it's possible I won't be able to get back online later, so I guess I can't sit on this any longer. I said I had a particular reason for wanting to hear everyone's opinion's of everyone else, and here it is:

I received a pm telling me that the Seer had dreamed two wolves, Macalaure and Lottie.

It was *not* explained to me why I was being sent this interesting communication, nor can I find anything about it in the rules. Maybe this is a once-off thing (on the Seer's death?), or maybe a different person has been sent dreams each Night. Maybe the Dead are involved, or the mystery role. I honestly have no idea.

I realise I have no way of backing any of this up, and am asking you all to take my word for it, but I do think there's decent circumstantial evidence against both Lottie and Mac.

Wooooooow what's this

[Rikae]

Crossed with Nerwen, obviously...

Well, I can believe a Lottie-wolf, and Mac is certainly not off the menu.

But... such a message would presumably come from the dead, and it obviously doesn't.

Maybe it's some kind of... yeah, palantir-related, evesdropping sort of role.

The thing is, the seer is alive and knows if Nerwen is full of it or not.

[Aganzir]

Options:

1. Everything happened just as Nerwen said, and it's something to do with the mystery role.
2. Nerwen is a clever seer who dreamed Mac and Lottie wolves.
   • If either of these is true, Mac reacted waaay more coolly to Rikae's reveal than I would've expected. Which kind of makes me wonder if they were wolves in the same pack and Rikae used their death to their advantage.
3. Nerwen is a wolf. But what would she gain from doing this? Get the seer to reveal? I need to do some math.
4. Nerwen is the other lover.

Need to go now but will keep checking the thread as well as I can.

[Macalaure]

I thought Firefoot just made up her assignments as an example.

It's way too early. It has to be done near the end, when at least almost all the votes are cast. What if Shasta and Nilp decide to vote for the same person?

[Rikae]

Originally Posted by Macalaure

I thought Firefoot just made up her assignments as an example.

It's way too early. It has to be done near the end, when at least almost all the votes are cast. What if Shasta and Nilp decide to vote for the same person?

Could be, but it also could be that no one changes them. If it's the best thing we've got to communicate with, I intend to use it.

[Macalaure]

I thought there was only one secret role.

Now we have an assassin and one who can deliver seer dreams?

Something is not adding up here.