Ten Year Anniversary Game: Living Thread

[Boromir88]

Originally Posted by Mithalwen

Very tired but skimming through looking for oddities, this post by Aganzir struck me. This is surely (deliberate?) misinformation. The dead get their power of voting and enquiry not on the third night but when there are three dead. Since there should be (barring a successful protection or double targeting) one lynching and two night kills that means that it is more likely than not that the dead can start influencing things in the second cycle.

I think what she means is on the Dead thread, during the DAY they vote on who gets an extra vote amongst the Living, and during the NIGHT phase, vote on who amongst the Dead gets revealed as a Predator or Prey.

Therefor, they won't cast a vote to reveal one of the Dead's roles until NIGHT 3. If we lynch today, and 2 wolf kills tonight. DAY 2, the 3 dead will be able to vote who in the Living gets an extra vote. And if there's a lynch DAY 2, than NIGHT 3 they make their first role reveal vote, but there's 4 dead now. Where if we don't lynch someone today, and the same plays out...wolves kill 2. The 2 Dead, on DAY 2 aren't enough to grant a Living the extra vote. Then we make a lynch DAY 2, so by the time they reach the 3 Dead residents, it's during a NIGHT phase where they will vote on revealing one of their roles.

[Macalaure]

1 hour to deadline, and people are still discussing dead thread stuff. Wolves trying to look like they're contributing? Innocents who can't let go of a topic now that they've sunk their non-canine teeth into? I'm slightly leaning towards the latter, since in this game wolves don't have to fabricate cases, so there's no need come up with stuff out of thin air, or to look for an alternative to not have to.

I like how, in this game, if someone you suspect votes for somebody else you suspect, it doesn't cause you to second-guess your suspicions. Makes things easier. Whether this is a good thing in the larger picture is something else.

I don't really suspect morm anymore now, and I'd rather not vote for Rune. Nogrod made his way up my suspect list, but I feel quite unconfident about it.
Unless something unexpected happens, I will vote for Aganzir.

[Mithalwen]

Hmm maybe.. but it still seems wrong - maybe because it is so passive and seems to give too much of a free rein to the wolves for too long before we do anything. Gah..

[Boromir88]

It may be I'm missing something from this ingenious plan of yours, but it looks dowright doomed. Why would the dead pick the choices of the living? Why would they go for a "neutral voter" if they had better plans? How would we orchestrate it that they'd be forced to do our picking? How do you tell, if the "decision" of the dead is made by well informed majority of innocents? ~ Nog

I don't see it as forcing the dead to vote the way they want to vote, but as a way to give us some information about roles revealed in the Dead thread.

Ok, hypothetical, you and me living have 4 votes, and say hypothetically the phantom is dead and the dead wanted to know his role during the NIGHT.

Lommy, spokesperson during the next DAY phase says something like "if you know phantom is a predator give your extra vote to one of Nog's voters (leaving 4 options). If you know phantom is a prey give your extra vote to one of Boro's votes (again leaving 4 options). If you don't know phantom's role, or you know stuff about the Living lynch we don't know...abort. Don't tell us something with your extra vote and give it to anyone who did not vote for Nog or Boro."

That's not forcing the Dead into a box to give an extra vote to only a few people. Although it leaves it up to open to tampering if their are more wolves. But, that would in turn mean we're doing a good job (or the wolves are doing a good job killing each other...or both). Also, a Dead wolf I would imagine shouldn't be completely put off with a chance to work with Dead innocents if it means they help their own pack by weakening their rivals.

If I happen to die soon, the first wolf I'm aware of in the Dead thread, I will certainly make a proposal to make a temporary alliance in an effort to kill off their rival pack. I don't know if any of them will take up that offer, but I can be quite persuasive.