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Old 10-12-2014, 12:36 PM   #1
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Just returned home, should be around periodically for several hours, as I said it is Thanksgiving so my family time is going to have to take precedence over this, but I will do my best. The deadline for me is rather early in the morning so I'll have to vote fairly early in the Day

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I guess I wasn't clear enough. Agan, for some reason, went all out to save you, to the extent of casting the kill-vote on another player whom she obviously didn't particularly suspect. To the wolves, this might well have suggested she was the Seer who had dreamed you as an innocent- unless you're *not* innocent, in which case it might be, as I said, a bluff. Or they might have killed her for some other reason- that's why I mentioned a.) her sudden gung-ho attitude towards lynching Mac and Shasta and b.) her Wildcard question. (I'd say we don't have one, but the numbers are borderline.
To me it simply looked like Agan just wanted to play with Inzil and perhaps voted too quickly without really thinking it through, but I can definitely see how it could have looked like she was a Seer trying to protect an innocent she dreamed of. The wolves may not have had very much to go on either (only 2 pages of posts, a couple players not even present), so this one thing could have simply been better than nothing for them. This theory would make Inzil look very innocent. I can also see how this might look like a potential bluff by the wolves, but I don't know how likely I find that. The whole thing could just have easily been a random kill choice, so I'm not going to decide on Inzil's innocence just based on this.


Also, it took me way too long to figure out who Algae was supposed to be. Any reason Greenie isn't an acceptable nickname anymore, or was it all a plot to mess with my mind?
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Old 10-12-2014, 01:17 PM   #2
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Well, this Day One was certainly terrible, even by Day One standards. Too few people online at the deadline, otherwise we might have prevented this.

Why Aganzir? Her mistake-vote made her look very innocent, I think. Wolves don't panic like that when voting one innocent over the other. Maybe some people were going to suspect her, but I doubt it. There was no way she was going to be the seer either, though I keep reading about that. If Aganseer had dreamt of Legate, her mess-up would have been incredible, and if she dreamt of an ordo-Inzil, she would have been more subtle about saving him. For a seer, it's better to have a known-to-you innocent die than to risk your own life by sticking out like that.
I don't see how her death makes Inzil look neither better nor worse, to be honest.

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I have a feeling that a guilty Mac would be more involved, would more actively try to steer the conversation (or else cause chaos like he did last time he was evil).
An axe through the neck cures one of such behavior. This game I'll be all fluffy and agreeable!

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You, on the other hand, post an entire paragraph about it.
This was in reply to LG's point against Legate (don't want to quote the whole thing). I noticed this, too: a tiny point against Legate, blown up by a whole lot. Sure, it was day one and there was preciously little else to go on, but still. Odd.


And why is Inzil so eager to have me suspect him? I feel taunted.
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Old 10-12-2014, 01:23 PM   #3
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And why is Inzil so eager to have me suspect him? I feel taunted.
Maybe he's playing a dangerous game and is the third McWolf?
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Old 10-12-2014, 01:29 PM   #4
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Maybe he's playing a dangerous game and is the third McWolf?
As epic as that would be, past experience wouldn't lend itself to a repeat.
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Old 10-12-2014, 03:31 PM   #5
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I need to go back over Day 1 before I contribute too much, but I did want to let you guys know I'm here this time. Sorry
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Old 10-12-2014, 03:44 PM   #6
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Well, alright, done that then. There really wasn't much that stood out in particular - the only thing I managed to dig up out of the banter-fest that was Day 1 was an interesting point Greenie (I refuse to call her algae on the grounds that algae is gross and slimy and Greenie is neither one of these things) brought up regarding Rikae's views on McCaber...

Nah, it's probably nothing.
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Well, alright, done that then. There really wasn't much that stood out in particular - the only thing I managed to dig up out of the banter-fest that was Day 1 was an interesting point Greenie (I refuse to call her algae on the grounds that algae is gross and slimy and Greenie is neither one of these things) brought up regarding Rikae's views on McCaber...

Nah, it's probably nothing.
Come to think of it, she is kind of misrepresenting what I said there, since it was a double post and pretty obviously a continuation of the same thought.

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Well, if the wolves thought Agan was the Seer and had dreamed Inzil, they either consider her completely dishonourable or didn't read the thread very carefully. Agan only found out the game had started two hours before deadline yesterDay, so unless she lied about that, there's no way she could have dreamed anybody. Mind you, they might still have thought she was the Seer on some other grounds, but as to what those might be, I've no idea. Or else they just figured that her voting mistake would make her look very innocent and decided to be rid of her for that reason? Then again, targeting anyone but a potential Seer doesn't really make sense at this stage so I don't know.

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Where did the Legate-wagon come from, anyway? I knew my vote would get me some of my own, but I was surprised to see he got lynched.
Although I'm pretty certain there's a wolf who voted me, odds are there's at least one who went for Legate. It narrows the possibilities at least that one on each bandwagon is gone.
I'm not sure it can be called a wagon, to be honest. I mean - three people voting for Legate, one because Legate voted him, another because of an argument now proven to be completely wrong, and the third because she preferred playing with Inzil to playing with Legate. (Sorry to phrase it so bluntly but I seriously dislike the "I like playing with this guy so I'm not going to vote for him" -argument, even on a Day 1. I was prepared to argue about it with Agan toDay but obviously can't now. )

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Mac not taking the bait and attacking me, instead casting an easy vote for Shasta does not help him.
So you voted for Mac to bait him? Was that it?

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This looks like she's trying to explain it away, to me. She mentions a reason he's suspicious, but only labels it "confusing" and suggests a typo.
Incorrect. I said Inzil was being inconsistent (suspecting McCaber but voting for Mac), but that doesn't necessarily equal suspicious. If you have a suggestion as to what an evil Inzil would accomplish by that, please tell me.

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Also, it took me way too long to figure out who Algae was supposed to be. Any reason Greenie isn't an acceptable nickname anymore, or was it all a plot to mess with my mind?
Greenie is fine, Agan just got the idea somewhere and is determined to use it, but she's more or less the only one who does.
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I have a feeling that a guilty Mac would be more involved, would more actively try to steer the conversation (or else cause chaos like he did last time he was evil).
An axe through the neck cures one of such behavior. This game I'll be all fluffy and agreeable!
Err... Mac? Are you in fact telling us how your wolf tactics this game are going to be smoother than last time?

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This was in reply to LG's point against Legate (don't want to quote the whole thing). I noticed this, too: a tiny point against Legate, blown up by a whole lot. Sure, it was day one and there was preciously little else to go on, but still. Odd.
Blown up by a whole lot mostly because I struggled to phrase what I had in mind and didn't manage to do it in a more concise manner.


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