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Old 07-20-2014, 11:46 AM   #23
jallanite
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Originally Posted by denethorthefirst View Post
And while its true that some Dwarves fought on Saurons side during the War of the Last Alliance, i dont think they fought "under" him (like the Orcs and Men) but more "alongside" him for political reasons maybe, or Sauron bought some dwarves as mercenaries (i dont think they gave up their religion, worship of Mahal the Maker, and accepted Sauron as God-King). The Dwarves of Durin (and maybe other western Clans as well) definitely fought on the Side of the Elves and the Dunedain. So the seven Dwarf Kings were definitely not at Saurons "beck and call"! In fact Sauron did all he could to regain the Seven Rings because they did not work on the Dwarves and he could not dominate them (he only recaptured three of them by the end of the Third Age).
I don’t recall so much as a mention of the Dwarves during what Tolkien writes of Sauron’s early wars.

I find, perhaps wrongly, your statement that the Dwarves “definitely fought on the Side of the Elves and the Dunedain” not to be supported by what Tolkien has written either about the war with Númenor or in the war of the Last Alliance. Provide a source for definitely.

My point in bringing in various other mentions by Tolkien of powers and attributes of the One Ring and the other Rings is that Tolkien does not restrict the One Ring only to your narrow definition:
The only function of the One Ring was to dominate (the bearers of) the other Rings of Power and to somehow enhance Saurons ability to dominate other wills.
The Orcs whom Sam contacts telepathically and the Orc who is frightened by Sam are not themselves bearers of other Rings of Power. That the One Ring has a vague ability to somehow enhance Sauron’s ability to dominate other wills, is just vague. It does not work on Gollum who even till the end is opposed to Sauron’s will, though terrified by the thought of him. It does not work on Frodo who wishes rather to set himself up as a new Dark Lord opposed to Sauron.

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