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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
Join Date: Aug 2012
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I know this is quite an old thread, but this has always been my favourite depiction of Morgoth, Ted Nasmith's "Morgoth punishes Hśrin":
http://corecanvas.s3.amazonaws.com/t...al/silm_12.jpg One of the best things about it in my opinion is that it leaves Morgoth's face to our imagination. I'm not such a fan of the face in Nasmith's front-on depiction which was posted above: http://img-fan.theonering.net/~roloz...th/morgoth.jpg My issues with certain fan depictions of the Enemy are as follows: 1) Too much plate armour. I know Morgoth was in his origin a great "maker" but nonetheless such armour to the best of our knowledge probably didn't exist at any point in Arda's history. Nasmith depicts Morgoth in mail and with a more "kingly" cloak and crown, which I think reflects Morgoth's character. I feel like he saw himself as a ruler more than a combatant. 2) Either covered faces or overly demonic or goblinoid faces - I think he should have a "terrible countenance" - hideous perhaps - but in the sense of a sneering, contemptuous, evil human being, full of arrogance and loathing for all other things. I have the same problem with the depictions of balrogs that typically display them as horned and hoofed satyr-devils even though there's nothing in the text to substantiate this claim (and in my opinion they're more inspired by the fire-jötnar of the Norse). Some of you may have seen before my own (rather crude) attempt to visualise Morgoth: http://robanes.deviantart.com/art/Mo...ured-292036738 He's not haughty enough, however, in my opinion, and I wish I'd made him look less brooding and more angry. And given him eyes. Here's Gothmog: http://robanes.deviantart.com/art/Th...rogs-441388773 Apologies for shilling my own stuff but this is the closest I can come to conveying how I personally see these characters to some extent.
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Ghost Prince of Cardolan
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Yes he's really rather bizarre looking in my opinion. I'm always in two minds about Nasmith's artwork. Some of it I find utterly inspired and some of it I find rather lacking.
How silly of me, I seem to have included a duplicate of the link on the end of the link. Here's the correct one (and I shall edit my original post): http://robanes.deviantart.com/art/Th...rogs-441388773 Quote:
Also regarding the description you quoted Belegorn, I find this artwork I once discovered approaches to a limited extent how I imagine it: http://sarumanka.deviantart.com/art/...ival-351142288
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Gruesome Spectre
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As it should be. To me a visualization of the face of Morgoth (and for that matter, Sauron) is entirely counterproductive. Fear of the unknown is much more effective generally than a hard point of reference. When you're talking about the ultimate Tolkien personification of Evil, what outside the mind of the reader could possibly do it justice?
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Pile O'Bones
Join Date: Jan 2014
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I always pictured Morgoth as someone "beautiful" when he walked among elves as the... god damn it I can't remember the phrase, but something like the giver of gifts. But then, when he lost the ability to appear as he wished (after the fall of Numenor?) I picture him as someone quite ugly, repulsive even, to the normal free folk.
But that is just the picture I painted in my mind, nothing else. |
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Shade of Carn Dūm
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Melkor was grandiose. His helmet, as the Morgoth, was so heavy Beren could not lift it [Lays of Belereiand, 8.4136-4137], and he had a scar and limp [12.3604-09, 3615-3617, 3632-3634]. I agree that terrible does not necessarily mean he had an ugly countenance. Melkor's physical form in the beginning is described as:
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Pile O'Bones
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Shade of Carn Dūm
Join Date: Feb 2014
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I imagine he would have been incredibly handsome (given the vanity) while he was still able to take fair form, before going off to Angband. The archetypal 'bad boi' appeal, or equivalent 'elfy' variation. Seducer, conman, appeals to narcissism to groom. He would have been very creepy at gatherings--flirting or implying such across boundaries of propriety.
Perverse, sexually, as is implied by citations indicationg cross-species couplings. Orcs multiplied quickly. And according to the mode of the children of illuvatar. After his transition, not sure what was left of objectively handsome. |
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Shade of Carn Dūm
Join Date: Jul 2012
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I don't know that his permanent form was not good looking.
"he put on again the form that he had worn as the tyrant of Utumno: a dark Lord, tall and terrible. In that form he remained ever after." [Simarillion, ch. 8] It seems his other servants tended to have a terrible air about them as well.
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