WW CV: They Should Make a Movie About This! (Game Thread)

[Nogrod]

But to be honest, I think it's no coincidence that both Lommy and me find Boro and Copper the next scenario - and feel that Sally & Kit are the primary suspects (I'm a bit torn by Nerwen as the third but Lommy thinks she is the third one on that scenario).

Unless Lommy is a wolf of course - and she is probably thinking vice versa. There would be a lot of fun or serious "reaching out" to be made here, but I'm probably sticking to my guns and voting Sally just looking at the most likely chances of getting a wolf (or Kit even if I'd kind of rather vote for Sally just because Kit has been a good sport).

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Unless Lommy is a wolf of course - and she is probably thinking vice versa. There would be a lot of fun or serious "reaching out" to be made here, but I'm probably sticking to my guns and voting Sally just looking at the most likely chances of getting a wolf (or Kit even if I'd kind of rather vote for Sally just because Kit has been a good sport).

Err, I'm hoping this is just great minds think alike because that's my thoughts exactly up to the point that it's creepy. Well, whatever happens toDay, toMorrow will be interesting no doubt.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Thinlómien

Err, I'm hoping this is just great minds think alike because that's my thoughts exactly up to the point that it's creepy. Well, whatever happens toDay, toMorrow will be interesting no doubt.

My thoughts exactly...

Although I'd add the factor I mentioned earlier, which is, that if we get it wrong toDay toMorrow will not be first and foremost interesting but rather scary...

[Thinlómien]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

Although I'd add the factor I mentioned earlier, which is, that if we get it wrong toDay toMorrow will not be first and foremost interesting but rather scary...

As long as we don't lynch any of the gifteds it should still be decent.

Anyway, I think it's my bedtime, so

++Sally

Considering both yesterDay's vote and Greenie's death, I think it's the logical choice.

[Nogrod]

The voting so far...

Copper -> Sally
Boro -> Lottie
Kath -> Kitanna


My view of things: the wolves killed Greenie on the grounds she was the most probable seer-candidate (aka. Sally is a wolf). Then toDay Kitanna has been consistently downplaying that interpretation by both promoting the idea that Greenie's death was a no trace kill and that Sally is more innocent than not - and she has been very active toDay trying to find any other candidates to replace the suspicions on Sally (and herself).

A good villager also takes an open-eyed look at as many others as s/he can... and like in every game; anyone you look at the right way looks suspicious - or if you are a wolf, you can make anyone look suspicious.

So unless someone comes with something that really challenges my basic idea that I think actually has some merit, then I'm going to vote for Sally.


EDIT: X'd with Lommy...

[Nogrod]

My bedtime as well (2AM).

++ Sally


Copper -> Sally
Boro -> Lottie (1)
Kath -> Kitanna (1)
Lommy -> Sally
Nog -> Sally (3)

[Kitanna]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

My view of things: the wolves killed Greenie on the grounds she was the most probable seer-candidate (aka. Sally is a wolf). Then toDay Kitanna has been consistently downplaying that interpretation by both promoting the idea that Greenie's death was a no trace kill and that Sally is more innocent than not - and she has been very active toDay trying to find any other candidates to replace the suspicions on Sally (and herself).

You must think me a mighty foolish wolf to so blatantly defend Sally as a packmate.

I don't know if Sally is actually guilty, but I know I'm not. And I don't think Sally is a foolish enough wolf to night kill someone who leads to clearly to her. So I'm not sold on her being guilty right now.

You on the other hand...

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

You must think me a mighty foolish wolf to so blatantly defend Sally as a packmate.

I don't know if Sally is actually guilty, but I know I'm not. And I don't think Sally is a foolish enough wolf to night kill someone who leads to clearly to her. So I'm not sold on her being guilty right now.

Yes. Yes, that exactly. Everyone keeps insisting that Greenie was a Seer kill, and I don't buy it at all. If she was a Seer kill, it was a dumb move on the wolves' part - if she was a Seer kill, then the wolf would have to be Sally, and we all know that. It's obvious. It would be the most obvious Night kill a wolf could make, and I do not think Sally would have done it. You know what it could have been? An easy frame. I mentioned Cop earlier as potentially having killed Greenie during the Night with the intention of using that death to frame Sally earlier - it looks like that argument could apply to Nog and maybe even Lommy as well.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Loslote

Everyone keeps insisting that Greenie was a Seer kill, and I don't buy it at all. If she was a Seer kill, it was a dumb move on the wolves' part - if she was a Seer kill, then the wolf would have to be Sally, and we all know that. It's obvious. It would be the most obvious Night kill a wolf could make, and I do not think Sally would have done it. You know what it could have been? An easy frame.

I agree there is a chance the Night kill was a framing (I did actually suggest that scenaro myself earlier) - but Kitanna's consistent defence of Sally / suggestions it was a no-trace kill keeps me thinking it's more likely it wasn't.

But just hold on a minute. If Sally is a wolf (as I think she is), what other options did the wolves have? "Yeah, let's not kill Greenie-seer so that she can find out about us others or pronounce her dream in no uncertain terms on D2, as killing her would compromise the safety of one of us"?

And I don't think "everyone" is thinking Greenie was a seer-kill, but the wolves sure would be feeling like that...

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Kitanna

You must think me a mighty foolish wolf to so blatantly defend Sally as a packmate.

You didn't do it "blatantly". Kind of the contrary. You did it quite carefully, bit by bit - but consistently. Read your posts from the beginning of the Day (before you started searching for other candidates - piling a nice amount of analysis of other people trying to make a case for them in hopes of us turning our eyes from Sally).

I might be wrong about you. But it doesn't remove the case on Sally... Even if I do think you two have a connection, because of your posts toDay.

I don't know if Sally is actually guilty, but I know I'm not. And I don't think Sally is a foolish enough wolf to night kill someone who leads to clearly to her.

That doesn't make me suspect you two less. On the contrary. The exact attitude , the view-point, you have there, looks very much like that of a wolf in distress for her mate.

It's not foolish to do away with a possible seer even if it costs one of the pack . but it is a bit foolish to stick to defend your mate...

[Kitanna]

++Nogrod

I feel like you have been gunning for me since this game started. However today you (and Lommy) are working overtime to throw as much suspicions as you can on Sally and I. And to a lesser extent Nerwen. Why? Because of our interactions? Same can be said of the two of you.

It looks too much like you trying to push Sally out there. Maybe you're in cahoots with her and she sacrifices herself to help make you look good, to show everyone we can trust you. It looks extremely fishy to me that you have become fixated on Sally and I (and Lommy is guilty of this as well). To the point where you have barely bothered to look at anyone else. Unless you've had a dream or your're a wolf no ordo can be so sure they've made the right choice until their suspect is dead.

Also you accuse me of

and she has been very active toDay trying to find any other candidates to replace the suspicions on Sally (and herself).

So you're accusing me of playing the game? Because all I did was list suspects and follow through on what I thought of them. How nefarious of me.

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

My view of things: the wolves killed Greenie on the grounds she was the most probable seer-candidate (aka. Sally is a wolf). Then toDay Kitanna has been consistently downplaying that interpretation by both promoting the idea that Greenie's death was a no trace kill and that Sally is more innocent than not - and she has been very active toDay trying to find any other candidates to replace the suspicions on Sally (and herself).

Just to clarify if someone missed it...

Why Kitanna's defence of Sally or the repeated suggesting that the wolves killed Sally for a random no-trace -reasons toDay matters? Well, she really puts a lot of effort to say that - and that's exactly what a fellow wolf would do knowing what they did during the Night and seeing people getting suspicious about exactly that.

So it kind of speaks for the guilt of Sally- but even if I'm wrong about it (Kit just is consistently and deliberately thinking that Sally is the innocent person here and needs to be defended, even if somwewhat subtly to begin with = early Day) Sally still looks suspicious because of the Night-kill.

EDIT: X'd with Kitanna