Is Thorin to remain alive?

[Lotrelf]

Originally Posted by Nerwen

Lotrelf, the article you link is just paraphrasing another, which in turn makes some vague claims in the passive voice ("it has been reported" etc.) and cites as its only source an unnamed "website". I wouldn't take any of this too seriously.

-Mind you, practically every other time we've dismissed a rumour about these films as a hoax it's turned out to be true, so let's not get too complacent...

Jeez! I hope what you're saying is true, and the rumour doesn't end up being true too. I think PJ has already made TS members unhappy by giving the movies "his touch". Is he really ready to take another blame on him?
Your rumour being true makes me feel there should be thread entitled "That awkward moment when..." and everyone should reply their "awkward" memories or something.
Like: "That awkward moment when Legolas got bruised fighting with the Orcs." xD
and "That awkward moment when the false news of Thorin's life [being spared] became true."
Mithalwen, are you talking about the scientist Schr�0‹2dinger? Please let me know.

[Mithalwen]

Yes, and his paradox of the cat being both alive and dead ... and I am aware it is. A lot more complicated than that but ....

[Morthoron]

At this point, does it matter what new travesty Peter Jackson inflicts on The Hobbit? It is already a farce.

Besides, this Thorin character in the movie bears utterly no resemblance to the one in the book. He's just a short surly guy without manners, not a dwarf.

[Faramir Jones]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

At this point, does it matter what new travesty Peter Jackson inflicts on The Hobbit? It is already a farce.

Besides, this Thorin character in the movie bears utterly no resemblance to the one in the book. He's just a short surly guy without manners, not a dwarf.

I agree with you here, Morthoron. After the bad fanfiction of Tauriel, letting Thorin live would be mild by comparison.

[Zigûr]

Originally Posted by Morthoron

Besides, this Thorin character in the movie bears utterly no resemblance to the one in the book. He's just a short surly guy without manners, not a dwarf.

I really don't understand the praise for Thorin in the films. Richard Armitage is fine, I suppose, but the portrayal of the character is so safe and boring, cut straight from a Hollywood cookie cutter template with virtually no reference to the original character.

Incidentally, don't the filmmakers look incredibly hypocritical for saying that the Dwarves needed to be given more character than their book counterparts, then proceeding to just give them each a silly haircut and calling it a day? I mean, beyond Thorin, Kíli, Balin and to a tiny extent Fíli, they haven't bothered to characterise them at all - most of them still don't speak. Yet they have plenty of time for characters who weren't in the book or whom they actually made up. I was watching LordPhillock's commentary the other day and there were glimpses of some of the Extended Edition scenes from "An Unexpected Journey," particularly in Rivendell, which do characterise the Dwarves, but merely by showing them being crass and undignified, and the Elves reacting to it with stuffiness and discomfort. In the book the Elves are cheery and fun while the Dwarves are pompous and uncomfortable. Why the complete reversal?

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by Zigûr

I was watching LordPhillock's commentary the other day and there were glimpses of some of the Extended Edition scenes from "An Unexpected Journey," particularly in Rivendell, which do characterise the Dwarves, but merely by showing them being crass and undignified, and the Elves reacting to it with stuffiness and discomfort. In the book the Elves are cheery and fun while the Dwarves are pompous and uncomfortable. Why the complete reversal?

I still haven't seen either of the Hobbit films, but that depiction of the Elves' general characterization seems consistent with that in the LOTR trilogy: aristocratic bordering on arrogant, with a barely concealed disdain for the lower races. And to emphasize that, the other races are made to act rude, crude, and socially unacceptable. The book-Elves did have a sense of humor, and weren't described as always glowering and somber. Maybe it's because they ate meat