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Old 09-08-2013, 08:12 AM   #1
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Thank you, I like it too. I could if you want have a crack at making a few names for you if you wanted me too. If you give me the English meaning (eg. Blue-Sky-Light, or something.), I will give you a list of possible renderings.
Thank you! I'm not entirely sure what I want yet... possibly something like "star-music" but I'm undecided.

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Try Ardalambion. It's probably the best Tolkien-language resource I know of.
Wow. That is a LOT of information, I think I'll be lost in there for weeks! Thanks!
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Old 09-10-2013, 05:26 AM   #2
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Ok for this name we can use the following:

el = Star. Plural = elenath, elin
źl = Star. Plural = źlenath, źlin
elen = Star. Plural = elin
en = Of the
lin = Music, Musical sound
gil = Star, Bright spark. Plural = giliath


If you want 'Star Music', then try one of these: Ellin, Elengil, Elenlin.

However I would prefer to make the meaning of the name 'Music of the Stars' or 'Star(s) of the Music', we can then have a more attractive name IMO, something like: Gilenźlenil, Gilenźlin, Linenźlin,.



Do you like any of these?
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Old 09-10-2013, 08:26 AM   #3
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I don't think you always need to translate the ofcthe cf Osgiliath, citadel of the stars. You could just have Lingiliath
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Ok for this name we can use the following:

el = Star. Plural = elenath, elin
źl = Star. Plural = źlenath, źlin
elen = Star. Plural = elin
en = Of the
lin = Music, Musical sound
gil = Star, Bright spark. Plural = giliath


If you want 'Star Music', then try one of these: Ellin, Elengil, Elenlin.

However I would prefer to make the meaning of the name 'Music of the Stars' or 'Star(s) of the Music', we can then have a more attractive name IMO, something like: Gilenźlenil, Gilenźlin, Linenźlin,.

Do you like any of these?
I like them, but none of them is "quite right." But they've given me a great jumping-off point to make one up, now that I have an idea on how they're structured. Thanks!

And I'm curious now, what names are more common, Quenya or Sindarin? Are Quenya and Sindarin names interchangeable? Are the rules always followed in constructing names, or is there a lot of freedom? Are some suffixes reserved for masculine names or are they interchangeable between masculine and feminine? There's so much involved in these languages, it's fascinating!
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Old 09-13-2013, 11:50 AM   #5
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I could weep. I have juat lost a long post and not sure I can remember it all. Sorry ifvthisnis bullet pointy.

First there is an elvi sh cuatom of self naming somitbis important your name feels right for you.

Sindarin names are more common since the exiled noldor adapted their quenya names or acquired new ones for political reasons but some words are similar. Numenorean rulers did favour Quenya names at the beginning.

Yes some suffixes are gender specific. I willl try to redo my list.
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Herecwe go again.

-ion and -iel mean son and daughter often figuratively not literally eg Aldarion, lordcof trees, Ereinion, scion of kings, Lomion, child of twighlight. Uineniel, daughter of Uinen,, Firiel, mortal woman, Miriel jewel lady etc

-riel is specifically a garlanded maiden ans -rian meaning queen is related..the idea of abeing crowned. Galadriel, is crowned with light because of her hair and her daughter's name is surmised to relate to her inheriting her father's hair colouring.

-HIR is male meaning lord -ROHIR is horse lord so Knight as in Elrohir, elf or starknight, Elphir swanlord. Hiril is lady but I can't think of any personal names using it.

-DAN as in Cirdan means wright more likely male

-dir is a suffix indicating a male person. I have seen -ien used as the female equivalent but it was atthe LOTR musical so not sure how authentic..Mithrandir, grey wanderer male, elranien, star wanderer female, Haldir, tall guy, Lindir, singer or musician, male,

-ndis is bride as in Erendis and Indis.
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Oh Yes ner is man and nis ia woman as in Artanis and Nerwen
Wen is woman too but not in my screen name where it is part of alwen meaning tree.
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wow, thanks mithalwen! it's all so confusing and wonderful at the same time. now i have even more ideas.

does anyone know if there's a list of compound words somewhere that might show a precedent on how to combine different consonants? i want to make sure i don't break any rules...
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