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Old 08-25-2013, 07:40 PM   #2
Belegorn
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When Gandalf returns Gimli himself inquires why the new color and Gandalf responds saying, "Indeed, I am Saruman, one might almost say, Saruman as he should have been." [TTT, pp. 116-117] Gandalf also does mention forgetfulness and a relearning process. Aragorn claimed that the White Rider is mightier than the 9 Ring Wraiths, although I'm not sure if earlier in book one Gandalf would agree to such a claim. Maybe he would then too.
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