PHANTASY FOOTBALL: Arda Cup 2013

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Salt and Smoke
GK TarAtanamir (Armen)- 6
DF Uinen (Sea)- 2
DF GaladriWight (TIG)- 2
DF Balrog#5 (Hithlum)- 2
DF *Varda (Imladris)- -1
MF TarMíriel (Armen)- 3
MF NogWight (Eriador)- 0
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 5
FW *Glaurung (Narg)- 4
FW *Scatha (Wilder)- 4
FW *Arien (Valimar) C- 8
TOTAL = 43

Okay, this certainly does not add up, one way or the other. I am really really bad at maths, so I am not even trying to count how many points should I get per each person, but the result does not add up, and also, shouldn't I get double points for Arien? Same goes for Nog, I think, who copied my move and has her as her captain as well (Not that I want to continue feeding him points, but...)

In any case, this round in total looks MUCH better than the previous ones! I'm on the rise, watch out! (Hope it continues that way...)

Only Legate and Nog got Group H correct.
Only Legate got Group F correct.
Legate had the most group-winners correct, with 7 of 8.

And, yay! Pity about the one guess, but who would have thought Angband...

Updates to team and predictions coming soon...

[Boromir88]

Man, I keep having good rounds and still seems like I'm losing ground. .

Quick prediction time:

Arnor vs Valimar
Angband vs AC Beleriand
Tirion vs Real Valinor
Misty Mts vs FC Valinor
Barad-Dur vs Eriador
Hithlum vs Nargothrond
Gondolin vs Tol-In-Gaurhoth
Anduin vs Armenelos

Trades:

We Didn't Start the Fire
GK *Elrond (Eriador) C
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF *Tilion (RealV)
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
MF Boromir II (Anduin)
MF Angrod (ACBel)
MF *Elros (Armen)
FW TarMinastir (Sea)
FW Eldacar (Gondor)
FW Orome (RealV)

----

--DF *Tilion
--DF *Fingolfin
--DF *Morgoth
++DF Tar Telperien
++DF Vana
++DF *Eonwe


--MF Boromir II
++MF *Beleg

--FW Tar Minastir
--FW Eldacar
--FW Orome
++FW Ar Pharazon
++FW Celegorm
++FW **Feanor

-----

We Didn't Start the Fire
GK *Elrond (Eriador)
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF Tar Telperien (Armen)
DF Vana (Valimar)
DF *Eonwe (FCVal)
MF Angrod (ACBel)
MF *Elros (Armen)
MF *Beleg (Hithlum)
FW Celegorm (FCVal)
FW Ar Pharazon (Armen)
FW **Feanor (ACBel) C

Switching captain to Feanor

[Galadriel55]

Predictions:

Arnor vs Valimar
Angband vs AC Beleriand
Tirion vs Real Valinor
Misty Mts vs FC Valinor
Barad-Dur vs Eriador
Hithlum vs Nargothrond
Gondolin vs Tol-In-Gaurhoth
Anduin vs Armenelos

Unnamed Horror

--Uinen (Sea)
--Nienor (Nargothrond)
--Nerdanel (Real)

++*Namo (Valimar)
++Nessa (Real)
++Hurin (Hithlum)

GK *Elrond (Eriador)
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF *Namo (Valimar)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)
MF NerWight (TIG)
MF Nessa (Real)
FW *Curufin (FC Val) C
FW ArPharazon (Armen)
FW Hurin (Hithlum)

[satansaloser2005]

Changing the recipe a bit. My last batch was....

GK *ShastaWolf (TIG)
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)
DF Aragorn (Eriador)
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
MF NogWight (Eriador)
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)
MF NerWight (TIG)
FW Finrod (Narg)
FW Aredhel (Tirion)
FW *Curufin (FCVal)

Which changes to....

GK *ShastaWolf (TiG)
DF *Fingolfin (AC Bel)
DF Aragorn (Eriador)
DF BoroWolf (TiG)
DF Balrog #5 (Hithlum)
MF Tar-Míriel (Armenelos)
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)
MF NerWight (TiG)
FW Finrod (Nargothrond)
FW **Feanor (AC Bel)
FW *Curufin (FC Val) (C)



And now prediction time, with winners in bold. Hedging my bets just a bit....

Arnor vs Valimar
Angband vs AC Beleriand
Tirion vs Real Valinor
Misty Mts vs FC Valinor
Barad-Dur vs Eriador
Hithlum vs Nargothrond
Gondolin vs Tol-In-Gaurhoth
Anduin vs Armenelos

[Boromir88]

Sorry all, I've had some computer/posting issues and now my desktop has died one me and that held basically all of my Arda Cup stuff. I've got my laptop but it's still going to take me several hours since I also have some unexpected duties...here I thought I could enjoy the first college football Saturday and finish my matches.

Anyway, I'm posting the TIG-Gondolin score to get it up for you and will fill in the story sometime later today. Thanks for waiting patiently.

[the phantom]

Here's the best possible alignment for the last round...

The Perfect Squad +8
GK Grishnakh (BDur)- 6
DF Maglor (FCVal)- 4
DF Arwen (Eriador)- 4
DF Asfaloth (Eriador)- 4
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
MF *Beleg (Hithlum) C- 8
MF Hador (Hithlum)- 5
MF *PhantomWolf (TIG)- 5
FW *Arien (Valimar)- 7
FW **Turin (Hithlum)- 8
FW *InzilWolf (TIG)- 7
TOTAL = 78

Here is how everyone fared in the first round of playoffs. Let me know if you see an error.

Lynch Mob +8
GK *Huan (FCVal) C- 6
DF Aragorn (Eriador)- 3
DF Vana (Valimar)- 2
DF Balrog#4 (ACBel)- 2
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
MF Aegnor (ACBel)- -1
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 4
MF *PhantomWolf (TIG)- 5
FW *Curufin (FCVal)- 7
FW **Turin (Hithlum)- 8
FW Finrod (Nargothrond)- 3
TOTAL = 57

Atashi no Negai +7
GK *ShastaWolf (TIG)- 4
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF Aragorn (Eriador)- 3
DF Maglor (FCVal)- 4
DF *Namo (Valimar)- 2
MF TarMíriel (Armen)- 0
MF *PhantomWolf (TIG)- 5
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 1
FW Finrod (Narg) C- 3
FW *Curufin (FCVal)- 7
FW *Arien (Valimar)- 7
TOTAL = 50

We Didn't Start the Fire +7
GK *Elrond (Eriador)- 4
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF TarTelperien (Armen)- 2
DF Vana (Valimar)- 2
DF *Eonwe (FCVal)- 3
MF Angrod (ACBel)- 3
MF *Elros (Armen)- 5
MF *Beleg (Hithlum)- 8
FW Celegorm (FCVal)- 4
FW ArPharazon (Armen)- 3
FW **Feanor (ACBel) C- 4
TOTAL = 53

The Mooncrazed Remixed +7
GK *Huan (FCVal)- 6
DF Balrog #5 (Hithlum)- 3
DF Aragorn (Eriador)- 3
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)- 2
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 4
MF *Beleg (Hithlum)- 8
MF Hador (Hithlum)- 5
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 1
MF Aegnor (ACBel)- -1
MF NerWight (TIG)- 0
FW *Curufin (FCVal) C- 7
TOTAL = 52

Noggportunistics +8
GK TarAtanamir (Armen)- 4
DF Vana (Valimar)- 2
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF Aragorn (Eriador)- 3
DF *Tilion (RealV)- 2
MF Argon (FCVal)- 1
MF Hador (Hithlum)- 5
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 4
FW **Feanor (ACBel)- 4
FW *Arien (Valimar) C- 7
FW *Miriel (RealV)- 3
TOTAL = 54

Cupkicks +7
GK *ShastaWolf (TIG)- 4
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)- 2
DF Aragorn (Eriador)- 3
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF Balrog#5 (Hithlum)- 3
MF TarMiriel (Armen)- 0
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 1
MF NerWight (TIG)- 0
FW Finrod (Narg)- 3
FW **Feanor (ACBel)- 4
FW *Curufin (FCVal) C- 7
TOTAL = 45

Eleven Pillars of Wisdom +7
GK *ShastaWolf (TIG)- 4
DF *Tilion (RealV)- 2
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF Maglor (FCVal)- 4
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)- 2
MF Aegnor (ACBel)- -1
MF Nessa (RealV)- 3
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 1
FW Thuringwethil (TIG)- 4
FW *Arien (Valimar)- 7
FW *Curufin (FCVal) C- 7
TOTAL = 51

Unnamed Horror +8
GK *Elrond (Eriador)- 4
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)- 2
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF *Namo (Valimar)- 2
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- -1
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 4
MF NerWight (TIG)- 0
MF Nessa (RealV)- 3
FW *Curufin (FC Val) C- 7
FW ArPharazon (Armen)- 3
FW Hurin (Hithlum)- 6
TOTAL = 49

Salt and Smoke +7
GK TarAtanamir (Armen)- 4
DF *Tilion (RealV)- 2
DF GaladriWight (TIG)- 2
DF Balrog#5 (Hithlum)- 3
DF Este (Valimar)- 1
MF TarMíriel (Armen)- 0
MF *Ingwe (Valimar)- 3
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 1
FW *Glaurung (Narg)- 3
FW *Ancalagon (Angband)- 4
FW *Arien (Valimar) C- 7
TOTAL = 44

FC Monkey Stink
GK Galadriel (DwUnt)-
DF Nienna (RealV)- 2
DF Balrog#5 (Hithlum)- 3
DF Arwen (Eriador)- 4
DF Alatar (BDur)- 4
MF *Elwe (Doriath)-
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador) C- 1
MF Cirdan (Havens)-
MF Aegnor (ACBel)- -1
FW *Arien (Valimar)- 7
FW *Miriel (RealV)- 3
TOTAL = 24

Wilwa's Winners
GK Marach (ACBel)- 4
DF Celeborn (Anduin)- 0
DF Uinen (Sea)-
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- -1
MF Cirdan (Havens)-
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)- 4
MF Idril (Gondolin)- 0
FW *Miriel (RealV) C- 3
FW *Smaug (Erebor)-
FW Ar Pharazon (Armen)- 3
TOTAL = 20

The Uncloakables +6
GK Marach (ACBel)- 4
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- -1
DF BoroWolf (TIG)- 4
DF Aragorn (Eriador)- 3
DF *Tilion (Real Valinor)- 2
MF *PhantomWolf (TIG)- 5
MF Hador (Hithlum) C- 5
MF Argon (FCVal)- 1
FW *WitchKing (Arnor)- 3
FW *Maeglin (Gondolin)- 4
FW *Curufin (FCVal)- 7
TOTAL = 48

Round 1 Playoff Points
Lynch Mob- 57
Noggportunistics- 54
We Didn’t Start the Fire- 53
Mooncrazed Remixed- 52
Elven Pillars of Wisdom- 51
Atashi no Negai- 50
Unnamed Horror- 49
The Uncloakables- 48
Cupkicks- 45
Salt and Smoke- 44
FC Monkey Stink- 24
Wilwa’s Winners- 20

Wow- everyone was quite tightly bunched that round! And now onto the standings-- Nilp is still in the lead, but his nearest competitors all inched closer that round, including Nog who has hopped Boro for 2nd. Meanwhile in the second wave Galadriel has risen to the front and Shasta finds himself between the two groups. We shall see if anyone can bridge the gap...

Total Point Standings
Atashi no Negai- 231
Noggportunistics- 218
We Didn’t Start the Fire- 217
Lynch Mob- 212
Mooncrazed Remixed- 203
Unnamed Horror- 181
Cupkicks- 180
Elven Pillars of Wisdom- 178
The Uncloakables- 175
Salt and Smoke- 171
Wilwa’s Winners- 158
FC Monkey Stink- 150

[the phantom]

You are allowed seven stars (and one white tree).

You are allowed four trades.

You can gain bonus points (2 per match) for correct predictions in the quarterfinals, which are as follows...

AC Beleriand vs Valimar

Real Valinor vs FC Valinor

Eriador vs Hithlum

Armenelos vs Tol-In-Gaurhoth

(Note: If Morm or Wilwa show they are allowed an extra trade this round.)

[Inziladun]

--DF BoroWolf (TIG)
++DF *NilpWolf (TIG)
--DF *Morgoth (Angband)
++DF *Namo (Valimar)
--FW *Witch King (Arnor)
++FW *Arien (Valimar)
--FW *Maeglin (Gondolin)
++FW *Miriel (Real Valinor)


GK- Marach (AC Beleriand)
DF *Namo (Valimar)
DF *NilpWolf (TIG)
DF Aragorn (Eriador)
DF *Tilion (Real Valinor)
MF *Phantomwolf (TIG)
MF Hador (Hithlum) (C)
MF Argon (FC Valinor)
FW *Arien (Valimar)
FW *Miriel (Real Valinor)
FW *Curufin (FC Valinor)


PREDICTIONS:

AC Beleriand vs Valimar- Valimar

Real Valinor vs FC Valinor- Real Valinor

Eriador vs Hithlum- Eriador

Armenelos vs Tol-In-Gaurhoth- TIG

[Galadriel55]

Eriador, TIG, FC Val, and Valimar for next round.

--Ar Pharazon
--*Morgoth
--Hurin
--Nerwight

++*Arien
++*Beleg
++Celegorm
++Asfaloth

Unnamed Horror
GK *Elrond (Eriador)
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF *Namo (Valimar)
DF Asfaloth (Eriador)
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)
MF *Beleg (Hithlum)
MF Nessa (RealV)
FW *Curufin (FC Val) C
FW *Arien (Valimar)
FW Celegorm (FC Val)
XQ White Tree (I'm allowed!)

[Nerwen]

Eleven Pillars of Wisdom
GK *Huan (FCVal)
DF Arwen (Eriador)
DF BoroWolf (TIG)
DF Maglor (FCVal)
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)
MF *phantomwolf (TiG)
MF Nessa (RealV)
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)
FW Inzilwolf (TIG)
FW *Arien (Valimar)
FW *Curufin (FCVal) C

— MF Aegnor (AC Bel)
++ *phantomwolf (TiG)

— GK *Shastawolf (TiG)
++ *Huan (FC Val)

— DF *Tilion (Real Val)
++ DF Arwen (Eriador)

— FW Thuringwethil (TiG)
++ FW *Inzilwolf (TiG)



Predictions:
AC Beleriand vs Valimar

Real Valinor vs FC Valinor

Eriador vs Hithlum

TiG vs Armenelos

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I'll get to this in a little bit, guys. This has been a housecleaning day for me.

[Nogrod]

Making just three changes this round...

-- GK Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)
-- DF Vana (Valimar)
-- MF *Yavanna (FC Valinor)

++ GK Huor (Hithlum)
++ DF *Fingolfin (AC Beleriand)
++ MF *PhantomWolf (T-I-G)

Which leads up to...


Noggportunistics

GK – Huor (Hithlum)

DF – Borowolf (TIG)
DF – Aragorn (Eriador)
DF – *Fingolfin (AC Beleriand)
DF – *Tilion (Real Valinor)

MF – Argon (FC Valinor)
MF – Hador (Hithlum)
MF – * PhantomWolf (T-I-G)

FW – **Fëanor (AC Beleriand)
FW – *Arien (Valimar) C
FW – *Miriel (Real Valinor)


As to predictions for the quarterfinals...

AC Beleriand beats Valimar
Real Valinor proves the better of FC Valinor
Eriador will not be able to match Hithlum
Armenelos will finally suffer in the hands of Tol-in-Gaurhoth

[Gwathagor]

Phantom, how many trades do we get next round?

[the phantom]

You can have three players from a team, but once the semifinals arrive you can have four.

You are allowed four trades before the quarters, four trades before the semis, then three trades ahead of the finals.

If your captain is eliminated and you don't assign a new one, the lowest active player on your roster becomes your default captain. If you miss making both trades and predictions in a round you are allowed an extra trade the following round.

[Nilpaurion Felagund]

Originally Posted by the phantom

If you miss making both trades and predictions in a round you are allowed an extra trade the following round.

This is purely a hypothetical question, and I don't plan on pulling this stunt anytime soon (because, for one thing, I don't think the extra trade can offset the lack of prediction points), but . . . can you miss the trade deadline on purpose and get that extra trade?

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Here it comes.

--DF Uinen
--DF Varda
--MF NogWight
--FW Scatha

++FW *Ancalagon (Angband)
++DF *Tilion (Real Val)
++MF Ingwë (Valimar)
++DF Estë (Valimar)

So we get:

Resalted and Resmoked

GK Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)
DF *Tilion (Real Val)
DF GaladriWight (TIG)
DF Balrog#5 (Hithlum)
DF Estë (Valimar)
MF Tar-Míriel (Armenelos)
MF *Ingwë (Valimar)
MF *Glorfindel (Eriador)
FW *Glaurung (Nargothrond)
FW *Ancalagon (Angband)
FW *Arien (Valimar) -> C

And as for group predictions:

Arnor vs Valimar
Angband vs AC Beleriand
Tirion vs Real Valinor
Misty Mts vs FC Valinor
Barad-Dur vs Eriador
Hithlum vs Nargothrond
Gondolin vs Tol-In-Gaurhoth
Anduin vs Armenelos

[the phantom]

This is purely a hypothetical question, and I don't plan on pulling this stunt anytime soon (because, for one thing, I don't think the extra trade can offset the lack of prediction points), but . . . can you miss the trade deadline on purpose and get that extra trade?

I suppose if someone believes one extra trade is worth zero activity the previous round they can try it. But like I said, they're only allowed the extra trade if they make no trades and make no predictions the previous round, so they'd automatically be giving up a chance at 8 points in predictions, so to break even they'd have to be confident they would make those points up with their extra trade (plus any points they might lose not being able to switch their captaincy or swapping out an optimal player etc.).

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Legate of Amon Lanc

Okay, this certainly does not add up, one way or the other. I am really really bad at maths, so I am not even trying to count how many points should I get per each person, but the result does not add up, and also, shouldn't I get double points for Arien?

I did a recount of your points (also checking the initial points given) and it is hard to end up with any other result but the 43 points given (including Aria's points doubled).

Goalkeeper = 6 points
Defence = 2+2+2-1 = 5 points
Midfield = 3+0+5 = 8 points
Forwards = 4+4+(2x8) = 8+16 = 24 points

6+5+8+24 = 43


It's nice to see the game becoming tighter along with the matches... some of the last games will be just killers to predict and getting predictions wrong means having redundant players in one's team not picking you points, while correct picks might earn you hugely - so I'd say everything's open...

[Shastanis Althreduin]

I'll get my stuff up today, sorry about the delay.

[Legate of Amon Lanc]

Originally Posted by Nogrod

I did a recount of your points (also checking the initial points given) and it is hard to end up with any other result but the 43 points given (including Aria's points doubled).

Oh right. Thanks. As I have said, I suck at maths. Somehow I did not realise that tp did not write the double in the list of numbers, but still counted it that way. Now it adds up. Good.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

The Mooncrazed Remixed
GK *Huan (FCVal)
DF Balrog #5 (Hithlum)
DF Aragorn (Eriador)
DF Balrog #4 (ACBel)
MF *Yavanna (FCVal)
MF *Beleg (Hithlum)
MF Hador (Hithlum)
MF Arveleg (Eriador)
MF Aegnor (ACBel)
MF NerWight (TIG)
FW *Curufin (FCVal) (C)


Predictions:

Arnor vs Valimar
Angband vs AC Beleriand
Tirion vs Real Valinor
Misty Mts vs FC Valinor
Barad-Dur vs Eriador
Hithlum vs Nargothrond
Gondolin vs Tol-In-Gaurhoth
Anduin vs Armenelos

I didn't have to make any trades, so I think we're just going to let the team be for now. How many from each team can we have on our squad again?