Game Thread - WW XCIIX - The Meaning Of Death

[the phantom]

Anyway, yesterday's lynch was.... irritating. I did a special readthrough especially for Pom, and following that I made this post announcing that I was transferring Pom into the "free pass" category.

No village has ever regretted listening to an innocent Phantom. You know that, right? *grumble*

[the phantom]

Okay, so now that Shasta's dead, is there a one of you that has received special information about Amandil's line?

(I'm not asking for you to out the person, I'm just wanting you to raise your hand if you've been sent special info, and then if someone contests that claim I suppose we'll put the both of you to the test.)

[the phantom]

In light of lynches the past couple days, there are some general, if flawed, conclusions we can leap to thanks to which people are under pressure at certain times etc.

If Steve is a KM then it's unlikely that Sally, Inzil, or Lottie is.
If Manwe is then it's unlikely that Sally, Steve, or Morsul is.
If Morsul is then it's unlikely that Sally or Lottie is.

According to those rules I sketched out teams of possible packmates to see which occurred most often and which individuals were compatible with the most others etc. etc. and Nerwen appears a heck of a lot, followed by Inzil, then a pile-up between everyone else.

So, as a proven innocent that will be killed by the KMs fairly soon, can I make a request of you folks? I'd like to see everyone give some sort of analysis on Nerwen and Inzil, and then pick a third individual that you for certain think is guilty.

[Mänwe]

Originally Posted by the phantom

I'd like to see everyone give some sort of analysis on Nerwen and Inzil, and then pick a third individual that you for certain think is guilty.

Looking back at the votes and late suspicions on the last vote, the known innocents were rather split on their thoughts, you voted Lottie first day phantom.

And wow, an early vote from Morsul. That's irritating if he won't be around much for the rest of toDay.

edit: x' d with all of the above

[the phantom]

Okay, just to keep track of this little tidbit, if you post but don't say you have the info I'm assuming you are saying you don't have it-

Claims to be the Known Ordo with special Amandil information:
Inzil

Did not receive special Amandil information:
Phantom
Brin
Sally
Manwe
Morsul

Has not posted:
Steve
Nerwen
Lottie

[Inziladun]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Okay, so now that Shasta's dead, is there a one of you that has received special information about Amandil's line?

(I'm not asking for you to out the person, I'm just wanting you to raise your hand if you've been sent special info, and then if someone contests that claim I suppose we'll put the both of you to the test.)

I have the info. I don't know how active I can be at the moment though. I'm away from home and working from a smartphone.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by the phantom

Okay, so now that Shasta's dead, is there a one of you that has received special information about Amandil's line?

Putting this out there now: I didn't get any new information last Night. Sorry I can't help out more.

Originally Posted by the phantom

No village has ever regretted listening to an innocent Phantom. You know that, right? *grumble*

And no village has ever lynched an innocent Sally and come up victorious. You know that, right? *grumbles right back*

I am sorry about Pom though. I waited too long to vote; if I'd put Morsul up earlier in the Day, I think we would have had a chance at him, but either was a good candidate in my eyes at the time, so I didn't press the issue.


EDIT: x'd since 321

[Eönwë]

Will be back later, with more thoughts.

[Morsul the Dark]

Here for two minutes between errands.

Note: I'm putting assumed there because it's not 100% confirmed but pretty much accepted.

list:

Known Innocents:
Phantom
Brinn

Assumed Innocents:
Lottie
Inzil

Assumed evil
Nerwen

That leaves at least two packmates.
Sally
Manwe
Steve

Right now I'm thinking Sally Steve However if I'm wrong and Sally is in fact innocent then clearly Steve Manwe

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

Um....okay? Should I stick around for a bit?

I will PM the gifted(s) that might be affected, so that everyone won't have to sit around waiting.

Therefore, if you do not get a PM, your role will not be changed.

And, no Zil, hopefully earlier than 2 minutes before DL.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Morsul the Dark

Here for two minutes between errands.

Note: I'm putting assumed there because it's not 100% confirmed but pretty much accepted.

list:

Known Innocents:
Phantom
Brinn

Assumed Innocents:
Lottie
Inzil

Assumed evil
Nerwen

That leaves at least two packmates.
Sally
Manwe
Steve

Right now I'm thinking Sally Steve However if I'm wrong and Sally is in fact innocent then clearly Steve Manwe

Lottie isn't an assumed innocent. Even if she's telling the truth, she could still be a wolf who's just throwing her packmate under the bus to make herself seem legit.

[satansaloser2005]

Morsul-->Sally
Lottie-->Nerwen
Nerwen-->Lottie
Sally-->Nerwen (2)

Yet to vote: Dun, Manwe, Phantom, Steve, Brinn

[Eönwë]

It's just my luck that the Day where everything happens is the Day I have the least time for. Well, I should be here until DL now.

So, before I embark on the epic reread I meant to do earlier toDay to check some of my theories/suspicions, is there anything I need to do before we get to the next step of reveals and such?

[the phantom]

Originally Posted by Steve

So, before I embark on the epic reread I meant to do earlier toDay to check some of my theories/suspicions, is there anything I need to do before we get to the next step of reveals and such?

I don't believe so. Read away.

[Inziladun]

Regarding Amandil's Heir, I'm weighing the consequences of not giving them up, as well as the opposite.
If I don't and I'm killed toNight, the chance to name another innocent is gone. Then again, Anarion could help me out, possibly.
Hm.

[Loslote]

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Regarding Amandil's Heir, I'm weighing the consequences of not giving them up, as well as the opposite.
If I don't and I'm killed toNight, the chance to name another innocent is gone. Then again, Anarion could help me out, possibly.
Hm.

I would say Elendil can reveal himself well enough. We'd trust a convincing Isildur or Anarion reveal - why should we need someone else to collaborate an Elendil reveal? I think the most good we got out of Amandil's death was the confirmation of your own innocence, Zil - revealing Elendil before it's necessary would be dangerous and, I think, not worth the risk.

[the phantom]

Yeah, Inzil, it's a tough call. But if what I've seen isn't a coincidence or fluke, then I think the person you have can prove their identity plenty well if they become a lynching target.

[Galadriel55]

Still need to figure some things out. I'm leaving for a couple hours, and I don't want this to come as a big surprise right before DL.

Elendil cannot anymore send dreams to known innocents.

Anarion cannot protect himself.

Amandil - upon his death the next gifted's name could be sent to any payer, not necessarily ordo.

Isildur - can't really think of a way to simplify this one. If I take anything away from him he'll be an ordo.



This is a tentative version, as I am still waiting for something.

I'm sorry all. I know I should have thought of all this before the game started. I guess I didn't think the logistics through well enough. It was definitelly planned for a bigger village. I appreciate any feedback in my PM box; I'll get back to it as soon as I come home again.