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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Washington, D. C., USA
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King's Writer
Join Date: Jul 2002
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I think that it was not the moment when Sauron finished the Ring but when he first wore it on his finger (which of course might have been nearly the same) that the Elve could feel his intentions and therefore took their rings of.
Gandalfs fear when he saw the darkness and heared Faramirs report of the way Frodo and Sam had chosen, might have been that either Sauron had regained the Ring but not yet used it or that Sauron had learned how to conceal his usage of the Ring. Sauron had a long chance to practice, while he worked with the Men destinied to become Nazgûl and the dwarvisch ring bearers while the Eves and Gandalf had never any chance to parctice the detection of Saurons invluence through the Rings (they simply never used it while Sauron held the One Ring). Respectfuly Findegil |
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Shade of Carn Dûm
Join Date: Apr 2012
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Newly Deceased
Join Date: Oct 2012
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I have just realized why I feel so lost about Frodo's Mithril Coat and the Mouth of Sauron, when obviously the original thread question has been discussed in the book.
It's because I read the RoTK in ebook format, and chapter 10 "The Black Gate Opens" is missing in my version. Go figure. Is there a chance that anyone has the text of Chapter 10 "The Black Gate opens"? (if its allowed to be posted here) The first time I read the books years back, I did remember that there was something about the war in front of the gates, but this time I didn't see anything. I remembered Pippin attacking a troll and then nearly dying under the crush of bodies, though this time it wasn't there.. and I also remember someone calling either Theoden or Denethor "dried up old stick." Err... does this last part happen somewhere? Or is this something totally unrelated I have mixed up with book facts? |
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Princess of Skwerlz
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: where the Sea is eastwards (WtR: 6060 miles)
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Runes, check your local library for a copy of RotR so you can reread the missing chapter. Posting whole chapters online is not permitted by copyright law.
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Blossom of Dwimordene
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: The realm of forgotten words
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Like Esty said, you wouldn't find the whole chapter. But you might find summaries. Here's one from Tolkien Gateway.
If calls the Mouth the Lieutenant, but they are one and the same person, and both names are used in the book. It also doesn't mention that Gandalf took the objects from the Mouth. I think it's a good summary in general.
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