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10-07-2012, 10:50 AM
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Pilgrim Soul
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Also it ignores the fact that that the Undying Lands are thus because of those who dwell there (immortal ainur and elves) the lands themselves don't have the inherent property to make mortals immortal. Mortals can't become immortal simply by landing there anymore than jumping in the sea is going to to turn me into a fish.
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10-07-2012, 02:55 PM
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Shade of Carn Dûm
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Valinor is the place best suited to the Elves. We see how the fading in M-E affects them. In fact the reason Sauron was able to ensnare the Gwaith-i-Mirdain into the making of Rings of Power was because of this desire to almost stop time and to create Valinor in M-E. We can see it in the use that Galadriel and Elrond put their Rings to. When the power of the 3 was broken those lands faded. Is it discriminatory, sure. I, however, am not one who thinks different people are suited to have what everyone else has and have no problem with a land for the Elves. Just as Numenor was a realm for the higher Men. When I use discrimate I use it as "a distinction", not in it's pejorative connotation.
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10-07-2012, 04:04 PM
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Same for the real world of middle earth, or fictional humanized spheroidal earth. |
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