Werewolf XCVII: Werewolves in the Westfold Game Thread

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Right, I'm here, and reading. Bit of luck on the Nessa vote - I noted someone else had seen what I'd seen about her, and something was telling me "bad!" and I had to vote, so. I apologize for my relative lack of being here. I'll do better.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Right, I'm here, and reading. Bit of luck on the Nessa vote - I noted someone else had seen what I'd seen about her, and something was telling me "bad!" and I had to vote, so. I apologize for my relative lack of being here. I'll do better.

Right, babe, you've done your part. Now just follow Sally's lead and all will be fine.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Reading Pitch's #69, I'm pretty well following the logic until I get here -

Originally Posted by Pitch

Now if the latter is true and Kit is one of the wolves, that would mean there were two wolves in danger of being lynched yesterDay and no innocent bandwagon to fall back on; which would explain the lack of any concerted attempt to save Nessa. But in this case I'd have expected to find Zil dead toDay instead of Nerwen.

Why's that, Pitch?

Originally Posted by Sally

This is a horrible thing to say, but I think Nessa's vote actually makes me look bad and Pitch look better. After all, she said things against me and then went after someone random in the end, disregarding her earlier "suspicion" of me.

Of course it's also possible she just hoped to lynch a possibly gifted Pitch in his absence, which would also not surprise me; I didn't go after Eomer for fear of doing exactly that, so I could see a wolf capitalizing on the lack of Pitch and disregarding anything else in hopes of having one less gifted come the Morrow.

Nnn. Sally, dear song partner of mine, this post. I don't like it, my dear. Firstly, I've seen you play the self-deprecating wolf before. It was in that play, "The Two Werewolves of Verona", remember?

Secondly, you're basically running with the assumption that Nessa in particular and the wolves as a whole thought Pitch was gifted - in that case, why isn't he dead?

Originally Posted by Eomer

I am less inclined to drop my guard around Shasta, however.

Oh, dear. How ever am I supposed to come murder you in your bed at this rate.

Cop, I have a question for you -

Originally Posted by Coppermirror

Why would she vote for a Pitchwolf?
At the time she probably thought he would be mod-fired. Then it could be as Pitchwife suggested, with her making a throwaway vote for a packmate in an attempt to look innocent.

In this suggestion, Pitchwife himself would be the packmate he's suggesting Nessa threw away her vote on. Was this a typo, or something?


....

Aaaaand Kit at #80 makes pretty much everything else moot.

And there's Inzil's counter-reveal at #87.

Originally Posted by Kitanna

Maybe I misread this, but after his response to Nerwen I'd have thought he'd throw a vote in her direction. Still he looks slightly more innocent because (and someone let me know if I screw up the order) but he was the first to vote Nessa. It's weird he didn't give a reason. Did he maybe think the voting would turn against me to her at any time and he was working to distance himself? Or was he just voting for her cause of his own time constraints and her vote for Pitch was suspicious enough to vote for.

That post wasn't against the light of my life, that was me mentioning I was thinking Nessa was jumping on something Eomer said as opposed to Nerwen.

Originally Posted by Inzil

I mistrust him in general, though, so it's rather difficult to be objective.

So hurtful.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Right, so, we've got Kitanna versus Inzil for today. I'm going to go back and look at Day 1 - although, interestingly, a Kitwolf would know all the innocents in the village, plus, this is a prime opportunity to mess with the village's mind should she be lynched (she tells us Person A is a dreamt innocent, dies a wolf. Was she trying to protect Person A (her packmate)? Was she trying to get them lynched via WIFOM? etc.)

It's weird to me that a Kitwolf wouldn't just go ahead and say someone was innocent. Whereas a frustrated innocent Kit might just be contrary because she's not being believed.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Secondly, you're basically running with the assumption that Nessa in particular and the wolves as a whole thought Pitch was gifted - in that case, why isn't he dead?

My harmonious darling, just because Nessa thought that doesn't mean her partners agreed with her. I should think that would be obvious. I never implied that the rest of the pack agreed with her, but it's interesting that you jumped to that conclusion. Are we simply out of tune, or are you playing a darker piece than we agreed upon?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

#15 - Inzil says Kit strikes him as "a bit off, but it's really a thin thing."

#22 - Inzil on Kit again - "some ill-defined feeling of unease"

#23 - Kit wants a reason for Inzil's suspicion.

#24 - Inzil mentions "the feel of the first couple posts."

#48 - Inzil - "It is a bit suspicious the way Sally latched onto what I said about Kit. Funny thing is, I was trying earlier to bait the hook with Coppermirror, not Kit."

#49 - Inzil votes Kit.

#52 - Kit - "I'll probably vote for Zil at this point. Because I don't like his "Kit strikes me as a bit off, but it's really a thin thing." and "I was trying earlier to bait the hook with Coppermirror, not Kit.""

#62 - Kit votes Inzil.

Conclusion - Well, it does look like a standard Seer lead-up on Inzil's part, and Kit does look a bit retaliatory, as though she's realized she's in trouble. But if that's so, and Kitwolf did realize Inzilgast had dreamt her, why not kill Inzil last night?

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Originally Posted by satansaloser2005

My harmonious darling, just because Nessa thought that doesn't mean her partners agreed with her. I should think that would be obvious. I never implied that the rest of the pack agreed with her, but it's interesting that you jumped to that conclusion. Are we simply out of tune, or are you playing a darker piece than we agreed upon?

My fault, dear. I saw this -

Originally Posted by Sally

Of course it's also possible she just hoped to lynch a possibly gifted Pitch in his absence, which would also not surprise me; I didn't go after Eomer for fear of doing exactly that, so I could see [/b]a wolf[/b] capitalizing on the lack of Pitch and disregarding anything else in hopes of having one less gifted come the Morrow.

(bolding mine)

- and took it to mean "a wolf that's not Nessa."

I do still think it a bit odd that you're so sure Nessa thought Pitch was gifted when he hadn't been here, though.

[satansaloser2005]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

My fault, dear. I...took it to mean "a wolf that's not Nessa."

I do still think it a bit odd that you're so sure Nessa thought Pitch was gifted when he hadn't been here, though.

Ahhhh. Fair enough. No worries.

I don't take it as canon, but it's an explanation I can think of that made sense. In a village this small, eliminating gifteds is a huge thing, and if Pitch wasn't around to defend himself, it would make it much easier. It also could have been plain opportunism or, for that matter, something random.

[Coppermirror]

Originally Posted by Shastanis Althreduin

Cop, I have a question for you -


In this suggestion, Pitchwife himself would be the packmate he's suggesting Nessa threw away her vote on. Was this a typo, or something?

I thought Pitchwife had said that and then added that it's not true because he's not a wolf. However, on second glance I was mixing up something Pitchwife said with something Inziladun said:

Originally Posted by Inziladun

Nessa's vote looks inexplicable.
I suppose it's possible she put in a vote for a packmate-Pitch, thinking no one else would even consider following her, but that doesn't seem all that likely.

Originally Posted by Pitchwife

Or, as she was already gathering suspicion at the time, she might have voted for packmate-Pitch in order to make me look good in case she ended up lynched; except she didn't because I ain't.

I'm going to go over Kitanna's analysis of me, and then I'll do an analysis of Kitanna vs Inziladun to try to work out who to believe.