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Old 07-13-2012, 02:25 PM   #1
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Shield Kamikaze Warg-Storm Frostdemon Apocalypse!

Ok, let's make (a whole lot of) changes!

GK- *Ungoliant (Angfauglith) OUT

DF- Balrog#2 (Angfauglith) OUT
DF- Gothmog#2 (Barad-Dur) OUT
DF- Gwaihir (Erebor)
DF- Grishnakh (Mordor) OUT

MF- *Beren (AC Beleriand)
MF- Nienor (Hithlum) OUT
MF- Este (Valimar) OUT

FW- **Feanor (AC Beleriand) (C)
FW- Celegorm (FC Valinor)
FW- Shelob (Mordor) OUT


Wow. Seven out. Need to get seven in.

ok:

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GK- Dior (Doriath)

DF- Nienna (Real Valinor)
DF- *Felarof (Rohan)
DF- Gwaihir (Erebor)
DF- *Ulmo (The Sea)

MF- *Beren (AC Beleriand)
MF- Ulfang (Angband)
MF- Gilraen (Imladris)

FW- **Feanor (AC Beleriand) (C)
FW- Celegorm (FC Valinor)
FW- *Bombadil (Shire-Bree Utd)
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Old 07-13-2012, 06:23 PM   #2
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Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate
GK *Huan (FC Valinor)
DF Shadowfax (Rohan)
DF Gildor (SBUnt)
DF *Tilion (Real Valinor)
DF Ecthelion (AC Beleriand)
MF Idril (FC Valinor)
MF Valandil (Eriador)
MF Bard (Erebor)
FW *Glorfindel (Eriador)
FW *Bombadil (SBUnt)
FW **Feanor (ACBel) C

Angband vs Minas Tirith
Eriador vs Doriath
Erebor vs Imladris
FC Valinor vs The Havens
The Sea vs Real Valinor
Rohan vs Dwarves United
AC Beleriand vs Gondolin
Gondor vs Shire-Bree United
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Old 07-13-2012, 07:55 PM   #3
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The Mooncrazed
GK *Huan (FC Valinor)
DF Asfaloth (Eriador)
DF Shadowfax (Rohan)
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)
DF *Felarof (Rohan)
MF Yavanna (FC Valinor)
MF BWight (SBUnt)
MF *Beren (ACBel)
FW Strider (SBUnt)
FW Witch King (Eriador)
FW *Curufin (FC Valinor) C



Hmm. You know, after looking at the matches, I'm actually pretty happy with my team.

Let's use that last star, though...

--Witch King (Eriador)
++*Ancalagon (Angband)


And Curufin will step down from the captainship this round.

The Mooncrazed
GK *Huan (FC Valinor)
DF Asfaloth (Eriador)
DF Shadowfax (Rohan)
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)
DF *Felarof (Rohan)
MF Yavanna (FC Valinor)
MF BWight (SBUnt)
MF *Beren (ACBel)
FW Strider (SBUnt)
FW *Ancalagon (Angband) (C)
FW *Curufin (FC Valinor)



Predictions -

Angband vs Minas Tirith

Eriador vs Doriath

Erebor vs Imladris

FC Valinor vs The Havens

The Sea vs Real Valinor

Rohan vs Dwarves United

AC Beleriand vs Gondolin

Gondor vs Shire-Bree United
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Old 07-13-2012, 10:33 PM   #4
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The playoffs have started.

If you made no trades during the break and wish to now, you are allowed to exchange players that were eliminated in group play for players on playoff teams that have yet to play (and still within the 7-trade 6-star limits of course).
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Curse my ill evening. Oh well. I was going to leave Smaug anyway, so when I finish this I'll go see if that was a smart decision.


GK Carcharoth (Angband)
DF Radagast (Rohan)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
DF Malbeth (Eriador)
DF Grishnakh (Mordor)
MF *PhantomWolf (TIG)
MF *Beleg (Doriath)
MF Yavanna (FC Valinor)
FW *Smaug (Erebor)
FW Thuringwethil (Angfauglith)
FW *Ancalagon (Angband)


--Grishnakh
--*PhantomWolf
--Thuringwethil

++Shadowfax (Rohan)
++*Gandalf (Rohan)
++*Curufin (FC Val)


This means I'm putting a lot of eggs in just a few of my Cupkicks. I hope this wasn't a bad choice....

GK Carcharoth (Angband)
DF Radagast (Rohan)
DF *Morgoth (Angband)
DF Malbeth (Eriador)
DF Shadowfax (Rohan)
MF *Gandalf (Rohan)
MF *Beleg (Doriath)
MF Yavanna (FC Valinor)
FW *Smaug (Erebor)
FW *Curufin (FC Valinor)
FW *Ancalagon (Angband) (C)



Now it's off to check out the first match, and then back to bed.
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I will be gone for the rest of this, so, assuming Nilp's brackets:

Eriador vs Minas Tirith
Erebor vs FC Valinor

And so: FC Valinor vs Eriador

Real Valinor vs Rohan
ACB vs SBU

And so: Real Valinor vs ACB

So an all-Valinor final, and I think Real will win it.


My team after this round:
GK *Huan (FC Valinor)
DF Shadowfax (Rohan)
DF Gildor (SBUnt)
DF *Tilion (Real Valinor)
DF Ecthelion (AC Beleriand)
MF Idril (FC Valinor)
MF Valandil (Eriador)
MF Bard (Erebor)
FW *Glorfindel (Eriador)
FW *Bombadil (SBUnt)
FW **Feanor (ACBel) C


My team after next round:
GK *Huan (FC Valinor)
DF *Gil-Galad (Eriador)
DF *Maglor (FC Valinor)
DF *Tilion (Real Valinor)
DF Ecthelion (AC Beleriand)
MF Idril (FC Valinor)
MF Valandil (Eriador)
MF Bregolas (ACBel)
FW *Glorfindel (Eriador)
FW *Miriel (Real Valinor)
FW **Feanor (ACBel) C

I can't have a team for the final, can I? Because of the the 3-player rule.
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Eonwe- after the quarters we will allow 4 players from a team, so you can take that into account when posting your team.

Also, feel free to leave conditional instructions, such as, "If team X wins add players A and B, but if team X is defeated instead add players C and D from team Y."
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The heck?!? MT beat Angband?
Angband's got some serious penalty kicking problems...their fault for having a cat
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Here’s an update on the 100 Million Dollar competition.

Shasta and Nilp are tied for the lead with 122 points, but Gwath and Eonwe are hot on their heels. Those four still have 8 of their 11 players active. Some people are down to a single player at this point, so needless to say scoring is on its way down.

Following each team is the total thus far in parenthesis and the number of active players remaining on the roster. (Eliminated players should be in italics.)

Shasta
GK Huan (FC Val)- 18
DF Asfaloth (Eriador)- 6
DF Rumil (RealV)- 8
DF Felarof (Rohan)- 13
DF Elwing (Havens)- 1
MF Arveleg (Eriador)- 8
MF Gandalf (Rohan)- 11
MF PhantomWolf (TIG)- 10
FW NerWight (TIG)- 11

FW Miriel (Real)- 14
FW Curufin (FC Val)- 22
(122)
8/11

Team Atashi no Negai (Nilp)
GK Carcaroth (Angband)- 12
DF Rúmil (Real)- 8
DF Asfaloth (Eriador)- 6
DF Imlach (AC Bel)- 8
DF Uldor (Angband)- 2
MF Argon (FC Val)- 9
MF Beren (AC Bel)- 19
MF Galadriel (Wilderland)- 11
FW Glorfindel (Eriador)- 18
FW Arien (Real)- 7
FW Curufin (FC Val)- 22
(122)
8/11

Eönwë
GK Huan (FC Val)- 18
DF Gethron (Hithlum)- 2
DF Gil-galad (Eriador)- 13
DF Rumil (Real)- 8
DF Butterbur (SBUnt)- 2
MF Beren (AC Bel)- 19
MF Figwit (Imladris)- 1
MF Telchar (DwUnt)- 3

FW Glorfindel (Eriador)- 18
FW Bombadil (SBUnt)- 18
FW Feanor (AC Bel)- 18
(120)
8/11

Gwath
GK Marach (AC Bel)- 16
DF Asfaloth (Eriador)- 6
DF Rumil (Real)- 8
DF Uldor (Angband)- 2
MF Beren (AC Bel)- 19
MF Arveleg (Eriador)- 8
MF Pallando (Valimar)- -1
MF Yavanna (FC Val)- 13
FW Miriel (Real)- 14
FW Finwe (Tirion)- 11
FW Curufin (FC Val)- 22
(118)
8/11

Winter Is Coming (Boro)
GK Voronwe (Sea)- 6
DF Uldor (Angband)- 2

DF Felarof (Rohan)- 13
DF Malbeth (Eriador)- 11
MF Beruthiel (BDur)- 6
MF Duilin (Gondolin)- 12

MF Arveleg (Eriador)- 8
MF Phantomwolf (TIG)- 10
FW Arien (Real)- 7
FW Finrod (Nargothrond)- 15
FW Eol (AC Bel)- 13
(103)
5/11

Galadriel
GK ShastaWolf (TIG)- 8
DF Rochallor (AC Bel)- 12
DF Asfaloth (Eriador)- 6
DF Caradhras (Isengard)- 6
DF Namo (Valimar)- 18

MF Ulrad (AC Bel)- 8
MF Nienor (Hithlum)- 2
MF Galadriel (Wilderland)- 11
FW Mablung (Doriath)- 12
FW Finwe (Tirion)- 11

FW Arien (Real)- 7
(101)
4/11

$100 Million Special (McCaber)
GK Carcaroth (Angband)- 12
DF Guillen (Nargothrond)- 0
DF Tar Palantir (Armenelos)- 0
DF Oropher (Wilderland)- 2

DF Felarof (Rohan)- 13
MF Beren (AC Bel)- 19
MF Nienor (Hithlum)- 2
MF Haleth (Inter Bel)- 3

FW Curufin (FC Val)- 22
FW Miriel (Real)- 14
FW Witch King (Eriador)- 14
(101)
5/11

Eomer
GK Aradan (Hithlum)- 8
DF Snowmane (Rohan)- 12
DF Gothmog#2 (BDur)- -1
DF Gwaihir (Erebor)- 12
DF Grishnakh (Mordor)- 1
MF Beren (AC Bel)- 19
MF Nienor (Hithlum)- 2
MF Celebrian (Valimar)- -1

FW Feanor (AC Bel)- 18
FW Celegorm (FC Val)- 17
FW Shelob (Mordor)- 11
(98)
5/11

Nogrod
GK Manwë (Valimar)- 12
DF Rochallor (AC Bel)- 12
DF Araphant (Eriador)- 7
DF Uldor (Angband)- 2
DF Beechbone (Wilderland)- 1

MF Argon (FC Val)- 9
MF Nessa (Real)- 4
MF Elwë (Wilderland)- 12
FW Finwë (Tirion)- 11

FW Miriel (Real)- 14
FW Eöl (AC Bel)- 13
(97)
7/11

Kuru’s Bought & Paid for Offensive Fever Swamp (Kuru)
GK Mumakil (BDur)- 4
DF Frumgar (Anduin)- 3
DF Borondir (Anduin)- 2
DF Haldad (Inter Bel)- 2
DF Gorlim (Inter Bel)- 0
MF Luthien (Doriath)- 8

MF Yavanna (FC Val)- 13
MF Aegnor (Havens)- 7
FW Finrod (Nargothrond)- 15
FW Turin (Hithlum)- 15
FW Sauron (BDur)- 21

(90)
1/11

Monkey’s Dream Team (Morm)
GK Elros (Imladris)- 14
DF Asfaloth (Eriador)- 6
DF Beechbone (Wilderland)- 1
DF Ulwarth (Angband)- 3
MF Thorin (DwUnt)- -2
MF Tar Aldarion (Sea)- 12
MF Figwit (Imladris)- 1
MF PhantomWolf (TIG)- 10

FW Miriel (Real)- 14
FW Turin (Hithlum)- 15
FW Shelob (Mordor)- 11

(85)
2/11

Inzil
GK Carcaroth (Angband)- 12
DF Tar Palantir (Armenelos)- 0
DF Durin (DwUnt)- 6
DF Caradhras (Isengard)- 6
DF Elwing (Havens)- 1
MF Galadriel (Wilderland)- 11
MF Narvi (MMtns)- 8

MF Idril (FC Val)- 8
FW Tar Minastir (Sea)- 10
FW Saucepan Man (Downer)- 11
FW NerWight (TIG)- 11

(84)
1/11

So Sweet, and Only 100 (Million) Calories (Sally)
GK Carcharoth (Angband)- 12
DF Mouth (BDur)- 0
DF Treebeard (Isengard)- 6

DF Shadowfax (Rohan)- 14
MF Daeron (Doriath)- 7
MF SallyWight (TIG)- 2
MF PhantomWolf (TIG)- 10

MF Denethor (AC Bel)- 2
FW Nerdanel (Real)- 7
FW Thuringwethil (Angfauglith)- 11
FW Maedhros (Inter Bel)- 11

(82)
3/11

Victory at a Price (Nerwen)
GK Carcharoth (Angband)- 12
DF Elwing (Havens)- 1

DF Asfaloth (Eriador)- 6
DF Oropher (Wilderland)- 2
MF Morwen (Hithlum)- 3
MF Barahir (Nargothrond)- 4

MF Eomer (Rohan)- 6
MF Idril (FC Val)- 8
FW Gwindor (Nargothrond)- 6
FW Curufin (FC Val)- 22
FW Arien (Real)- 7
(77)
5/11

Legate
GK Tar-Atanamir (Armenelos)- 8
DF Tar-Palantír (Armenelos)- 0
DF Brandir (Inter Bel)- 2
DF Fellbeast #1 (Mordor)- -2
MF Rían (Angfauglith)- 0

MF Khamul (SBUnt)- 13
MF Estë (Valimar)- 0
MF Galadriel (Wilderland)- 11
FW NerWight (TIG)- 11
FW Saruman (Isengard)- 4
FW Gothmog (Gondolin)- 18

(65)
1/11
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Here are the points earned in the last round. Next to each team name is the number of points gained from predictions. Feel free to check that the numbers are right.

Nerwen had the best showing this round, and Nilp narrowed Gwath's lead to 3 points.

The Perfect Team (+8)
GK Marach (ACBel)- 6
DF Ecthelion (ACBel)- 4
DF Balrog #1 (Angband)- 5
DF *Tilion (RealV)- 6
DF Caranthir (RealV)- 7
MF Mardil (MTirith)- 5
MF *Gandalf (Rohan)- 6
MF *Anarion (Gondor)- 8
FW Nazgul #7 (Erebor)- 7
FW Celegorm (FCVal)- 7
FW *Smaug (Erebor) C- 8
TOTAL = 85

Lynch Mob (+6)
GK Theoden (Rohan)- 6
DF Gwaihir (Erebor)- 4
DF Ecthelion (ACBel)- 4
DF Malbeth (Eriador)- 2
DF Penlod (FCVal)- 2
MF Arveleg (Eriador)- 0
MF *Beren (ACBel)- 4
MF *Anarion (Gondor)- 8
FW **Feanor (ACBel)- 4
FW *Ancalagon (Angband)- 0
FW *Curufin (FCVal) C- 4
TOTAL = 48

Cupkicks (+4)
GK Carcharoth (Angband)- 4
DF Radagast (Rohan)- 4
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 2
DF Malbeth (Eriador)- 2
DF Shadowfax (Rohan)- 4
MF *Gandalf (Rohan)- 6
MF *Beleg (Doriath)- 5
MF Yavanna (FC Valinor)- 3
FW *Smaug (Erebor)- 8
FW *Curufin (FCVal)- 4
FW *Ancalagon (Angband) C- 0
TOTAL = 46

The North Remembers (+5)
GK *Elrond (Eriador) C- 6
DF Erestor (Imladris)- 0
DF Radagast (Rohan)- 4
DF *Felarof (Rohan)- 4
DF *Maglor (FCVal)- 1
MF Ulfang (Angband)- 0
MF Yavanna (FCVal)- 3
MF *Gandalf (Rohan)- 6
MF Tar Minastir (Sea)- 0
FW Eol (ACBel)- 4
FW **Feanor (ACBel)- 4
TOTAL = 43

Atashi no Negai (+7)
GK *Huan (FCVal)- 4
DF Ecthelion (ACBel)- 4
DF Girion (Erebor)- 4
DF Radagast (Rohan)- 4
DF Gwaihir (Erebor)- 4
MF Arveleg (Eriador)- 0
MF Yavanna (FCVal)- 3
MF *Beren (ACBel)- 4
FW *Bombadil (SBUnt)- 7
FW *Curufin (FCVal)- 4
FW **Feanor (ACBel) C- 4
TOTAL = 53

Uninvited and Uncloaked (+3)
GK *Elros (Imladris)- 2
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 2
DF Landroval (Erebor)- 3
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)- 4
DF Durin (Dwarves United)- 2
MF *Beren (ACBel) C- 4
MF Duilin (Gondolin)- 0
MF Arassuil (Eriador)- 0
FW *Ancalagon (Angband)- 0
FW *Gothmog (Gondolin)- 0
FW Mablung (Doriath)- 0
TOTAL = 24

Mob Macabre
GK *Tar Atanamir (Armenelos)-
DF Balrog #1 (Angband)- 5
DF Ecthelion (AC Beleriand)- 4
DF Nienna (Real Valinor)- 4
DF Gwaihir (Erebor)- 4
MF Elwe (Wilderland)-
MF Beruthiel (Barad-dur)-
MF *Phantomwolf (TIG)-
FW *Hurin (Hithlum) C-
FW *Maedhros (Inter Beleriand)-
FW Witch King (Eriador)- 4
TOTAL = 21

The Mooncrazed (+7)
GK *Huan (FC Valinor)- 4
DF Asfaloth (Eriador)- 1
DF Shadowfax (Rohan)- 4
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)- 4
DF *Felarof (Rohan)- 4
MF Yavanna (FC Valinor)- 3
MF BWight (SBUnt)- 2
MF *Beren (ACBel)- 4
FW Strider (SBUnt)- 0
FW *Ancalagon (Angband) C- 0
FW *Curufin (FC Valinor)- 4
TOTAL = 37

Handy Hippies (+6)
GK *Elrond (Eriador)- 6
DF *Ulmo (Sea)- 0
DF Mauhúr (Isengard)-
DF *Celebrimbor (DwUnt)- 2
DF Radagast (Rohan)- 4
MF Tar-Míriel (Armenelos)-
MF Nessa (RealV)- 0
MF *Khamul (SBUnt) C- 5
FW *Smaug (Erebor)- 8
FW *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 3
FW Tuor (Havens)- 4
TOTAL = 43

Wisdom Teeth (+6)
GK Carcharoth (Angband)- 4
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 2
DF Girion (Erebor)- 4
DF Ecthelion (AC Bel)- 4
DF Shadowfax (Rohan)- 4
MF *Anarion (Gondor)- 8
MF Yavanna (FC Valinor)- 3
MF *Beren (ACBel)- 4
FW *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 3
FW Celegorm (FCVal)- 7
FW **Feanor (ACBel) C- 4
TOTAL = 57

Noggportunistics (+7)
GK Theoden (Rohan)- 6
DF Shadowfax (Rohan)- 4
DF Landroval (Erebor)- 3
DF Malbeth (Eriador)- 2
DF *Morgoth (Angband)- 2
MF Anarion (Gondor)- 8
MF Yavanna (FCVal)- 3
MF * Beren (ACBel)- 4
FW *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 3
FW *Curufin (FCVal) C- 4
FW *Arien (RealV)- 0
TOTAL = 50

Kuruharan’s Offensive Fever Swamp (+5)
GK *Beorn (Erebor)- 4
DF Malbeth (Eriador)- 2
DF *Celebrimbor (DwUnt)- 2
DF Butterbur (SBUnt)- 0
DF Landroval (Erebor)- 3
MF Dain (Erebor)- 1
MF Yavanna (FCVal)- 3
MF Aegnor (Havens)- -1
FW *Ancalagon (Angband)- 0
FW *Curufin (FCVal)- 4
FW **Feanor (ACBel) C- 4
TOTAL = 31

Kamikaze Warg-Storm Frostdemon Apocalypse (+4)
GK- Dior (Doriath)- 2
DF- Nienna (RealV)- 4
DF- *Felarof (Rohan)- 4
DF- Gwaihir (Erebor)- 4
DF- *Ulmo (Sea)- 0
MF- *Beren (AC Beleriand)- 4
MF- Ulfang (Angband)- 0
MF- Gilraen (Imladris)- 0
FW- **Feanor (AC Beleriand) C- 4
FW- Celegorm (FC Valinor)- 7
FW- *Bombadil (SBUnt)- 7
TOTAL = 44

Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate (+6)
GK *Huan (FCVal)- 4
DF Shadowfax (Rohan)- 4
DF Gildor (SBUnt)- 0
DF *Tilion (RealV)- 6
DF Ecthelion (AC Beleriand)- 4
MF Idril (FCVal)- 3
MF Valandil (Eriador)- 0
MF Bard (Erebor)- 1
FW *Glorfindel (Eriador)- 3
FW *Bombadil (SBUnt)- 7
FW **Feanor (ACBel) C- 4
TOTAL = 46

The Wrath of Monkey Stink
GK Tulkas (Real Valinor)- 6
DF Grishnakh (Mordor)-
DF Baran (Nargothrond)-
DF Galdor (Imladris)- -1
DF Gethron (Hithlum)-
MF Elemmakil (Gondolin)- 0
MF Wulf (Isengard)-
MF *Anarion (Gondor)- 8
MF Pallando (Valimar)-
FW *Miriel (Real Valinor)- 4
FW **Turin (Hithlum) C-
TOTAL = 17

Idle Leaves (+7)
GK *Elrond (Eriador)- 6
DF Ecthelion (ACBel)- 4
DF Radagast (Rohan)- 4
DF *Fingolfin (ACBel)- 4
DF Gwaihir (Erebor)- 4
MF *Anarion (Gondor)- 8
MF Bard (Erebor)- 1
MF Yavanna (FCVal)- 3
FW *Ancalagon (Angband)- 0
FW *Curufin (FC Val) C- 4
FW *Arien (RealVal)- 0
TOTAL = 49

1st Round Playoff Points

Wisdom Teeth- 57
Atashi no Negai- 53
Noggportunistics- 50
Idle Leaves- 49
Lynch Mob- 48
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 46
Cupkicks- 46
Kamikaze Warg-Storm Frostdemon Apocalypse- 44
Handy Hippies- 43
The North Remembers- 43
The Mooncrazed- 37
Kuruharan’s Offensive Fever Swamp- 31
Uninvited and Uncloaked- 24
Mob Macabre- 21
The Wrath of Monkey Stink- 17

Total Point Standings

Lynch Mob- 212
Atashi no Negai- 209
Noggportunistics- 191
The North Remembers- 185
Cupkicks- 178
The Mooncrazed- 177
Kamikaze Warg-Storm Frostdemon Apocalypse- 148
Wisdom Teeth- 147
Idle Leaves- 141
Kuruharan’s Offensive Fever Swamp- 140
Mob Macabre- 136
Eönwë's Egregious Aggregate- 129
Uninvited and Uncloaked- 128
Handy Hippies- 121
The Wrath of Monkey Stink- 106
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