Game Thread: TIG XCII - Disaster by the Lake

[Aganzir]

Btw Nog we're pathetic. Guess which two very busy people top the post count?

edit: Apologies, Uncle Boro!

[Nogrod]

Originally Posted by Aganzir

Btw Nog we're pathetic. Guess which two very busy people top the post count?

Right... or should one consider it the other way around: if two busy people are the most active what does it tell about the others?

Anyway. ToDay I'm not able to hang around to the deadline as I have an early morning call tomorrow - and I have limited time in the evening as well. Sorry about that.



As I se this popping up once again, let me try to be clear with it:

Originally Posted by me

If Galadriel were a gifted she wouldn't have then slipped that "I can actually participate a bit more are Nights" -thing. That would be far too reckless. But could she slip it as a wolf? Or is it just an ordo talking things that are not necessarily to the point regarding the game (as ordos have nothing to do by Night)?

So I am reaching, opportunistic "straw-grasper" etc.?

That was post #20 of the game - of a game which basically consisted of banter. So please excuse my poor wits if I was not able to make a "strong argument" from those 19 banter-posts.

And it is not arguing G55 is a wolf but is just making the question concerning the odd thing she said. Why do you who cite that post always leave out the last sentence? Shouldn't that be called opportunistic?

Of course making a question points to something you wish others to consider (and thus there is an element of suspicion involved), but it is not making an argument or a case.

Anyway. From my latter posts which commented Galadriel you can see I was and am not pressing for an interpretation she is a wolf at the time being - so I find it odd I'm suspected more or less from trying to get her lynched.

Blah. I hoped to say more but the class is calling and I have to go. More later, hopefully something more constructive then.



PS. anyone willing to criticize others for not making strong enough arguments should produce at least one themselves before going critical...

[A Little Green]

Originally Posted by Nog

And to me that reads like "I'll drop the suspicion", not "I'm watching him closely but will dismiss this particualr suspicion".

Err - what's the difference?

Originally Posted by Agan

Why single out cobbler? Does she want to say, "No, see here, Bom is not the cobbler!!"
...
So how did it become about the cobbler? As I see it, Lottie originally also offered two other options! It looks like they're both reading too much into it: first Greenie grasps at a part of a sentence, then Lottie immediately backs off.
Weirdos.

Of Lottie's two other options, one was "wolf impersonating cobbler" - so I felt obliged to point out that Bom always looks like the cobbler anyway. Makes sense?

Anyhow, I need to do some reading and some thinking before posting anything more, these notes I already had from reading over yesterDay. Won't have a lot of time toDay due to having a book to read for a Uni paper and a ridiculously difficult exam coming up, but I'll do my best.

[Shastanis Althreduin]

Somebody didn't like their bread, then? Huh. Don't look at me - I prefer apples myself anyway.

-snags one-

In any case, I'm going to read back over yesterday, but I'm still thinking hard about Agan.

[Bom Tombadillo]

Erg. I was going to post an analysis of Zil now that he (thank you G55) is a known innocent, but it ended up a mess. Mine always do.

Anyways, I'll go and read the thread a couple of times in between other stuff and see if my strangely muddled mind can provide some insight. So again, goodbye and I promise I'll actually have something interesting to say next time.

[Pitchwife]

Why Kath, indeed? In her big list post, she wasn't very decided about anybody. The only thing there, as far as I see, that might look remotedly gifted-ish is her saying about me "Pitch looks good", which is a bit more decisive than what she said about the rest of us; could that have looked like a Seer-hint to the wolves? But then she immediately qualified it with an "At least...", and I don't know why I would have been a KathSeer's choice to dream N1 in the first place, so maybe not. Trailless kill seems more likely.

Originally Posted by Kit re Nog's #20

I'm not sure why Pitch and Greenie jumped on Nog for this. In fact it looks weirder to me that they bring this up. Like, how do you figure Nog is giving anything away? How do you know he knows G55 isn't gifted? That's one big ball of confusion for me.

To clear that up, I don't think innocents should speculate about a certain player's giftedness or non-giftedness while that player is alive - which is what Nog did, wondering about G55's alleged slip with Nights and Days; and giving reasons why a player is likely not gifted is almost as bad as pointing out signs of giftedness, because it helps the wolves narrow down their kill-choices, which is not an innocent's job. I don't see why that is so difficult to comprehend.

Btw Agan, I don't think your explanation that Nog did this "to protect an assumed gifted" holds. The best way for an ordo to protect the gifteds would be to act as a decoy, or if you can't think of a way to do that, the second-best way would be to keep mum about whatever makes you think a certain player might be gifted (or not), or explain it away as best you can without bringing the question of giftedness up at all.

I'm more or less ready to accept Nog's hair-splitting in the cases of G55 and Lottie as a busy player trying to make arguments on D1 (and, in my eyes, some linguistic overthinking), except for that one point, which I don't like. And I don't think that was a bad point for a suspicion at all.

That said, yesterDay's amount of discussing possible gifteds was far too much for my taste, and I'd rather we'd stop that, please.

Originally Posted by Lottie

I also feel like a Nog-Agan wolf team would be completely out of the question, which makes me feel a bit better about Agan. A Nog-Greenie pack, on the other hand, would almost make sense given the dynamic they ended up with yesterDay...

Why do you think that?

Originally Posted by Nog

Right... or should one consider it the other way around: if two busy people are the most active what does it tell about the others?

That the rest of us spend our days twiddling our thumbs? Spare the rolleyes and come off the high horse, please.

Originally Posted by Nog

Anyway. From my latter posts which commented Galadriel you can see I was and am not pressing for an interpretation she is a wolf at the time being - so I find it odd I'm suspected more or less from trying to get her lynched.

That is not at all what I suspected you for. See above.

(x-ed with Agan)