Orcs... were elves?

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Originally Posted by Galin

Men never slew Men?

Don't think that there was a time when they didn't.

There are plenty of things that can catch your eye in the history of Men, so in my opinion the argument that you are (seemingly) trying to imply here really doesn't go any further than focusing on one side of the coin. When Tolkien considered that Men were the stock for orcs...

Note that I wasn't saying anything about Men, except for the statement that the elves noted that Men fought for Melkor. My point is that, for some elves, the slide from elf to orc wasn't very far, and that elves shouldn't be throwing stones.