Okay, so what do you think NOW?

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by sassyfriend

In the book he just seems very unkind to everyone.

Well, you could say this: Ugluk is also very unkind to everyone, but I hope you won't put him on level with the book-Boromir. He's not unkind just for the sake of it. He's not ungentle for the sake of being rough. He has more to his character than you put on. He's much deeper, and his motivations much more complex.

I don't believe that he was there "just to provide some drama". As I said, he is very important both plot-wise and character-wise to the story. It's like he doesn't die until the very end.

But that is just one character. Is that enough to completely ruin a read?


I first watched the movies when I was around six. My only reaction was WOW. They were cool. Not that I really understood anything, but they were cool. Shelob's lair was my favourite part, and the troll (he's not a troll! He's an orc! - I scream now) who jumped out at Frodo in Moria always scared me, even long after I knew that he was gonna do that. I probably had more impressions, but these are the only ones that I remember now.

I don't jump in my seat when the troll comes out anymore. I kinda miss that. And once I began actually understanding both the books and the movies, I came to like the book just that much more. Maybe I'm in the same situation as the almost-15-year-old-Formy, and my passion for PJ-hating will fall away. We'll see in a decade. But for now, books over movies without a doubt.

Edit: xed with Zil

[sassyfriend]

I'm thinking of reading the books again and hopefully be able to enjoy em better than i did. Not dissing book Boromir just haven't learned to love him in the books yet. But I do love Faramir in both books and Movies

[alatar]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I don't believe that he was there "just to provide some drama". As I said, he is very important both plot-wise and character-wise to the story. It's like he doesn't die until the very end.

But that is just one character. Is that enough to completely ruin a read?

You may have mistaken me, if you think that I prefer the movies to the books (I *did* write the SbS pages ).

I'm just noting a point where I found something nice to say about the movies, that they broadened and deepened my understanding of the Boromir character - something I may never have gotten from the books.

So say that either are 'all good' or 'all bad 'would be, to me, unreasonable.

Note that, when they are on TV, I may leave them on if I am hoping to fall asleep as the movies serve as great background noise. I hate to watch them intently, as in the SbS I've picked them mostly to the bones, and feel that I needn't go back.

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by alatar

You may have mistaken me, if you think that I prefer the movies to the books (I *did* write the SbS pages ).

I was talking to sassygriend in that sentence. I know you like the books.

It's true, the movies have good points, but they are just so few compared to the bad points.

[sassyfriend]

Why is that? Yeah I know they leave stuff out in the movies but what can you or any of us do about it? Would've loved to hear Legolas sing. I think that would've been so cool!

[Galadriel55]

Originally Posted by sassyfriend

Why is that? Yeah I know they leave stuff out in the movies but what can you or any of us do about it? Would've loved to hear Legolas sing. I think that would've been so cool!

First of all, they not only left stuff out (something that I tend to forgive movies), but they put stuff in as well, stuff that wasn't supposed to be there. Stuff that directly contradicts the ideas and images of the books.

What can we do about it? Well, join the "haters" club... Joking aside, nothing really. But that doesn't stop me from disliking them.

And thirdly, Legolas is a nice guy in the books (and he does sing!), but the movies' version is not him: it is a hollywood-ised elf, not a Tolkien elf. Being his fan isn't being Legolas' fan, but Orlando Bloom's fan.

[alatar]

Originally Posted by Galadriel55

I was talking to sassygriend in that sentence. I know you like the books.

I just want to be sure. Would hate to lose my 'hater' status...

[sassyfriend]

Lol no worries, alatar!